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Posted 10 Dec 2013The like button isn't a trademark either.
It's an invention, they would have a patent on that. Hence the company in the link I supplied that is attempting to sue Facebook on "patent infringement". (edit: noticing that the link I have is to a site that requires a subscription... though the google link I hit for it had the full article. Weird. Here's another: http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1264524 )
Copyright - protection on intellectual property protecting your right to copies of that work. For instance: music, books, movies, etc. These are things that are duplicated and sold.
Patent - protection on an idea or invention. It generally has a function, and is a working system or part of a working system. This can be applied to digital services and how your service functions. I say "generally has a function" because people like Apple have patents on the SHAPE of their fucking phone... which I guess, kind of has a function? ehhh... it was held up in court.
Trademark - this is more with branding. The "Coca-Cola" emblem is a trademark. "SEGA" is a trademark. It's a name or image that represents your company or trade presence. As it pertains to intellectual property it is in the sense of a likeness or the sort. For instance there is a trademark on the Star Wars universe of characters, if I wanted to produce a product with any likenesses from Star Wars then I'd need permission on grounds of trademark.
A trademark could be issued on the appearance of the like button on facebook (the blue thumbs-up), that's about it. And I don't believe they have a trademark on that, but don't hold me to it. This works as a trademark because when you see the blue thumbs up you think to yourself "oh... facebook!". It's a recognizable image of the company.
Note not having a registered trademark on something doesn't immediately give you right to use it. There is implied trademark, and if you were to hijack said implied trademark and intentually harm the company who has the implied trademark, you can be held for libel. Example if I used the blue thumbs up in a way to convince people that facebook sponsored something horrible like "dog fighting" (yes I'm referencing a heineken incident actually) which subsequently caused fb stock to drop... you can be in trouble, even if the trademark wasn't registered. Facebook would just have to prove in the courts that the implied trademark is strong enough that the general population easily could make that mistake.
Posted 10 Dec 2013Oh and at OP's original question.
As I've collected more and more languages it's been faster and faster. Using the definition for where I was proficient enough to write non-trivial applications in the language at a professional level.
My first languages like C# and AS3 took me quite some time, probably around 1 to 2 years to really learn them (despite working professionally with them both well before I learned them...)
Where as VB.Net took me about 30 minutes to pick up the syntax to start working in it professionally, and had it learned within a month's time. It helped though that I was familiar with the .Net framework, and that BASIC has a very easy syntax to it.do you feel better now?
Really, that's your response?
Sure, everything I said had to do with "feeling better".
Your retort is a non-sequitur... good job.
Posted 10 Dec 2013ybadragon - your argument is merely an argument of semantics where you're using a definition of "learned" that makes it nearly impossible to accomplish. I could say the same thing about English, I haven't "learned" English because it is changing every moment of every day.
But really, that's not a practical definition of the word "learned" for the context of OP's question. You instead sound like some philosophy student with a joint in his mouth preaching about how all experience is asymptotic to true knowledge of the universe.
phlrpppp (that's me blowing a raspberry with my tongue)
For all intents and purposes I have learned English. I am proficient enough in it, and have been for several years, that other English users can understand me. I have also learned VB.Net; I am proficient in it, and have been for several years, that I can write complex applications with it that the compiler understands me.
If you don't like this more practical definition for "learned"... well go find a conversation where your definition has use. Because in this context it has little to no use, except to annoy others with blahzy sentiments.
Posted 10 Dec 2013Could they own the patent on something like a like button or other things? Sure they could, if they filed for the patent. You can patent a lot of things in your design that have functional application.
Thing is facebook actually doesn't own the patent on the like button. Another company does, and they actually attempted to sue facebook over it.
An inventor (person or company) has legal grounds to patent any invention they make. The invention must be sent to have the patent approved by the government (this is the US, though getting a patent is down in similar ways in most countries). It's then up to the patent owner to protect their invention when someone infringes, usually by suing the person who infringed.
Posted 9 Dec 2013So the argument isn't "you don't know how to parent until your a parent", but instead is "you don't know what it's like to be a parent, until your a parent".
Isn't that kind of just fact. Like... duh, I don't know what it's like to a parent if I'm not one. I don't know what it's like to be black, female, or from Russia either. The way it had been put forward it seemed to imply that there was more to the statement than just that you don't know what it's like to be X until you've been X. It seems more like what was said is you don't know what it takes to be X and therefore can't say anything about, and are ill-prepared if you believe you know how to do X no matter what you've done prior to prepare yourself. Which I take to be a false statement... as hannibal pointed out, there are parents who don't know what they're doing and non-parents who just may as well do know what to do. So you can't just sweepingly say that because you haven't parented you don't know jack...
but sure, you can say you don't know what its like to be a parent until you've done it.
But that's not saying a whole lot.
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