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  1. In Topic: MCSD certification or Associate's Degree

    Posted 13 May 2013

    View PostAtli, on 13 May 2013 - 04:49 PM, said:

    And not all interviews will be like the on you mentioned. Some of them will have actual developers interviewing you, who will test you and see what you can do. Companies who frequently hire developers have come to realize that getting a seal of approval from some school is no guarantee that a person can actually code worth a damn.

    During this interview, they had me write out several lines of code. They said I did fairly decent on the assessments. He asked if I did any projects and I said no. He said he was on the fence with hiring me. That's when he told me to get some kind of credentials and work on projects like you mentioned.

    I guess the only way to do freelance is by networking? Do companies advertise for that sort of thing? Thanks for the advice!

  2. In Topic: MCSD certification or Associate's Degree

    Posted 13 May 2013

    View Postmodi123_1, on 13 May 2013 - 01:42 PM, said:

    As atli said - it depends. Depends on what exactly you want to do, where you are, interviewing factor, etc. I would spot check your local job boards and see if certs are heavily represented.

    So sure.. certs are good, but you need to be able to back that up with a little bit of gumption.


    The CEO from a small company, that was interviewing me last week, told me he needs some sort of evidence that I know what I'm doing. I have a bunch of languages listed on my resume, but he said it would help if I had something with a structure to it.

    I like ASP.NET/C# and have been learning from Murach's book and the asp.net website.

    I don't know how to get experience. I guess I can try to build my own websites. Someone suggested that I do freelancing, but I'm not sure what that means.

  3. In Topic: MCSD certification or Associate's Degree

    Posted 13 May 2013

    View PostAtli, on 13 May 2013 - 01:17 PM, said:

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    I want to get a job as an applications programmer

    You can usually get some work as a freelancer at first, and then use that work experience to land a job somewhere else, if that is your goal.


    Someone recommended this certification that covers the fundamentals of development:
    My link

    Can you specify what you mean by freelancer? Does this mean working for a company without a long-term commitment?

  4. In Topic: MCSD certification or Associate's Degree

    Posted 13 May 2013

    View PostAtli, on 13 May 2013 - 01:17 PM, said:

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    I want to get a job as an applications programmer

    Are we talking web applications or the desktop kind? I ask because you posted this in Web Development.

    In my experience, in Web Development you can get pretty far without any credential, or even without any official education. You can usually get some work as a freelancer at first, and then use that work experience to land a job somewhere else, if that is your goal. - This may of course be different based on areas, but if you were in my area, I'd suggest going freelance instead of chasing down degrees and certifications. Those tend to be meaningless pieces of paper when compared to actual experience.

    I think it might include both desktop and web applications. I'm guessing that the Windows Application exam would be the desktop one. I think there are other versions where they only require Web Applications or only Windows applications. But this particular one includes everything.

    One exam on Web applications development
    One exam on Windows applications development
    One exam on Web services and server components
    One exam on solution architecture
    One elective exam

  5. In Topic: MCSD certification or Associate's Degree

    Posted 13 May 2013

    View Postmodi123_1, on 13 May 2013 - 01:07 PM, said:

    That sort of depends on how much of the base programming concepts you have picked up.

    Do feel you have the courses and skills listed under the "MTA development track" covered?

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    MTA development track—for those intending to build a career as a software developer, this track helps prepare you for hands-on product training and MCSD certification. Start with MTA Software Development Fundamentals and then select the additional topics in this track to help you meet your career development goals:

    https://www.microsof...bid=Kfk_EJ_-b2M


    I wasn't aware of this track. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I am familiar with many of the concepts listed. I think I am more in the ballpark of passing this exam. Do you think this would be a decent credential to landing an entry level position? Thanks a lot for your help!

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