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Mac vs PC ... and I'm getting tired of it

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For years now I have been forced to sit through countless commercials on how much better a Mac is than a PC. Well lets look at some stuff in a rational and non-biased ways. When it comes to a Mac, everything in it is created and maintained by Apple -> OS, hardware (CPU, memory, HDD, etc) so since Apple makes it all of course it's going to have fewer issues and run good (though I still despise anything from Apple).

PC's on the other hand are made by not one company, but by hundreds if not thousands of companies, all making CPU's Motherboards, RAM, HDD's, and much more. The main Operating System running in the world today is Windows (Microsoft's baby) and for some reason people think Microsoft should have it thrown on their shoulders to make an OS that can run well with any thousands and thousands of hardware combinations from thousands upon thousands of manufacturers. And I personally find this asinine.

How can Microsoft be responsible for 100% of all pieces of hardware, and their versions and different types such as socket type, DIMM specification and more than we can ever talk here. I think if these manufacturers who refuse to take any of the responsibility for ensuring their hardware would run with any OS Microsoft supports then a lot of people would view those manufacturers the same way they now view Microsoft.

It's not Microsoft's fault that ATI drivers have a hard time with Windows 7, it's ATI's fault for not being flexible enough to ensure the most current OS would support the drivers required to run their card.

I for one am so tired of all the complaining from hundreds of people I speak to (both on-line & in real life) that blames Microsoft because their new fangle toy wont work with Windows 7, I tell them that the maker of that new fangle toy should have taken more time to ensure it does rather than expecting Microsoft to alter literally millions of line of code to account for their new fangle toy.

People....Microsoft is not the fault of all the hardware comparability issues when it comes to their OS, the hardware manufacturer should be forced to accept a great bit of the responsibility. Microsoft is a great company that has completely revolutionized personal computing as we know it, and no amount of Microsoft bashing is going to change that fact. Microsoft made it possible for 90%+ of people to have a computer than runs all the software they've been used to all their lives, hardware manufacturers should start accepting responsibility for hardware conflicts and make strides in fixing these issues.

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danny_kay1710 

10 March 2010 - 01:51 AM
Well said!!

I know people who think Mac is better than Windows on everything and it's just not true. I am not by any means a fanboy of Microsoft.

Personally I hate Apple and Microsoft for some of their business practices but both have done great things for the field of computing.

As far as which is better I don't think either are. Mac has it's strong points so does Windows. However you try to get users of Mac to admit that and you will have a hard time.

I also love it when Mac users say you get a similar spec PC to this Mac and run Windows on both it will run better on the Mac - but then the PC they generally compare it to are a similar specification but is made up of really cheap parts which simply don't give the same performance as the essentially all Intel hardware apple uses (excluding graphics).
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Core 

10 March 2010 - 06:35 AM
Just a little clarification - Apple doesn't make it's own hardware. It is made "upon request" by other manufacturers. CPU included - it is made by Intel. Same applies to hard drives - those are made by the same manufacturers that release this kind of devices for PCs (Western Digital, Seagate, Toshiba, Fujitsu etc.). Mac hard drives also use IDE and SCSI channels. Basically, the only part that differentiates a Mac is the mainboard.
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WolfCoder 

10 March 2010 - 09:28 AM
I usually pass of any complaint lodged at Windows as generally unfounded (unless they're complaints about Vista or ME) because Windows 7 works better on more machines than ever. Even with ATI and their lackluster OpenGL Windows 7 driver, it still works just fine in Windows 7 with other DirectX games and somehow runs Oblivion faster than in XP.

But one thing that is most annoying of all is that people think Windows is PC and it's versus Mac. PC is not Windows, PC is whatever you feel like installing on it. I think Linux makes a finer relative of Unix than any Mac OS ever made, but that's just me. Some of you just like Macs for whatever reason and that's great. It's those iTards that berate your PC when you might not even have Windows.

I think Microsoft has made an achievement because they did unify hardware. I remember saying about how stable a platform it is to write things for Windows and they got PC gaming into a new age with their DirectX architecture. For my game to work on tons of PCs with who-knows-what hardware is amazing enough. Macs are stuck with whatever Apple decides they come with, so all Apple has to do is make it all look pretty.

Even if I was a Mac user and fan, I can't deny that if I want to make a video game hit the largest audience for some independent developer like me, I write it for Windows and their 9x% market share. Even if I did think Microsoft is evil, you have to give all these achievements to them.
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finaiized 

10 March 2010 - 09:43 AM
@Core- Yes, Apple doesn't make it's hardware, but it orders exactly what it wants and so they know what to plan for.

Anyways, I'm not going to bash Apple because you've got to admit that the iPod and perhaps the iPhone are great platforms for mobile apps. I just think Apple shouldn't waste money on some stupid ads about Mac vs Windows.
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ShaneK 

11 March 2010 - 09:19 AM
Yes, I am also tired of these ads. Another thing these ads usually feature is about how Macs can't get viruses and PCs are riddled with them. It's insane, really, because Macs can get viruses but people who aren't tech savvy can't figure that one out and go out and think they need a mac if they ever need a computer.

It's clever advertising I suppose, but not real great. The reason Macs are believed to not be able to get viruses is because people don't code viruses for computers that effect a very small fraction of the computer-owning world; however, viruses do exist for them.

I also hate the fact that Apple pretty much has a strangle hold on anyone who buys their computer. Wanna update your computer? It'll cost ya more than ever.

But the argument is tiring. At this point I'm with the parody of the Mac vs Apple commercials that you can see on YouTube that ends up stating that computers suck.

//And I use an iPhone, but right now I really wish I had a Motorola Droid. Those things look sweet. <3 Google

Yours,
Shane~
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37Liion 

11 March 2010 - 06:33 PM
Just wondering.. what's the excuse for Microsoft susceptibility to viruses and such from the common user?
I'm not an expert or anything.. but it seems like life without anti-virus on the PC is much worse than life without anti-virus on the Mac.
I do all the same stuff on my Mac that I did on my PC, *blush*, but I don't have any of the problems with such things.
I'm not biased. I used PC's since I was 3. But a few months on the Mac side of things have been quite enjoyable.
Even if it is Hackintosh on a Inspiron 1525 :3
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PlasticineGuy 

11 March 2010 - 11:02 PM
There is no excuse because there doesn't need to be. Clearly, since Windows PCs are in the vast majority, many more viruses will be released for them.
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PsychoCoder 

11 March 2010 - 11:10 PM

37Liion, on 11 March 2010 - 04:33 PM, said:

Just wondering.. what's the excuse for Microsoft susceptibility to viruses and such from the common user?
I'm not an expert or anything.. but it seems like life without anti-virus on the PC is much worse than life without anti-virus on the Mac.
I do all the same stuff on my Mac that I did on my PC, *blush*, but I don't have any of the problems with such things.
I'm not biased. I used PC's since I was 3. But a few months on the Mac side of things have been quite enjoyable.
Even if it is Hackintosh on a Inspiron 1525 :3


Why does there need to be any kind of excuse? As already pointed out there are viruses that affect a Mac but not many simply because they have such a low market share, making it worthless for virus writers to do it. The main point of a virus is to wreak as much havoc as possible, and that's hard to do when targeting like 3% of the market.

In my years on PC (since Windows 2) I have had a single virus, that's right a single virus. On the other hand I've known Mac users who have had more than that, so in all reality which one is better?
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CTphpnwb 

12 March 2010 - 06:34 AM
I'd like to know what viruses (not silly, highly ineffective trojans) exist in the wild on OS X. I know of zero. The market share myth is exactly that. Sure, there should be fewer Mac viruses because of market share, but not zero. Instead of well over a hundred thousand, I'd expect around 10,000 Mac viruses if market share were an important factor.

The reality is that there are are no Mac bots sending spam while their owners are unaware, and very few (much lower percentage) Mac users calling for help getting their systems working.

As for which is better, in addition to its "it just works" factor - which is huge - OS X runs faster on the same hardware than Windows, and it's more stable.

The computer is a tool, and I choose the tool that works with the least hassle for me as a user. As a developer it doesn't matter which platform because my job is to solve problems. When I'm using my system though, I don't expect to need to work.

Now if I could just get Windows users to stop asking me for help, I'd be a happy man. Why are they so persistent?
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PsychoCoder 

13 March 2010 - 05:52 PM
Once again virus writers write viruses to do the most damage across the largest audience, which is PC and not Mac, so that's why there haven't been large outbreaks with a Mac. Most arent willing to spend so much time on something that will affect only about 6% of the world.

As for the

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As for which is better, in addition to its "it just works" factor - which is huge - OS X runs faster on the same hardware than Windows, and it's more stable.


That's a load if I've ever read (or seen) one. You would have to proove it, especially since OSX wouldn't run on my x86 hardware without some serious hacks (which is going to affect performance right off the bat)
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TonicX57 

28 March 2010 - 03:54 PM
I love you for writing this. My respect for you has seriously just skyrocketed after reading this. We need more people like you in the world.
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Choscura 

29 March 2010 - 06:31 PM
I wish I could afford a mac, because then I could write viruses for the kind of people that think that macs don't get viruses and make it tell them how stupid they are.
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Programmist 

30 March 2010 - 07:11 PM

37Liion, on 11 March 2010 - 06:33 PM, said:

Even if it is Hackintosh on a Inspiron 1525 :3

Apple removed support for Atom processors in response to many of the so-called "Hackintosh" netbooks. So, basically Apple didn't like people havingthe freedom to install their OS where they like, so they just *removed* support for the hardware from OS X. I know yours is not a netbook, but do you really want to support a company that does things like this (and much more draconian)? Based on what I've seen with iTunes, iPhone, and iPad I can only assume Apple is against free computing. I honestly believe Jobs would be happy if he could lock down the entire world under one architecture and OS...and then jack up the prices.
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Meister_Chicho 

02 April 2010 - 04:20 AM
I agree woth you Psychocoder.

But I must say i've bought a total 5 PCs and one mac (the last one). And the experience I am having is very good. Mac is not a crap neither.

Windows 7 has "saved" microsoft's "honor".
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Meister_Chicho 

02 April 2010 - 04:29 AM

Programmist, on 31 March 2010 - 02:11 AM, said:

37Liion, on 11 March 2010 - 06:33 PM, said:

Even if it is Hackintosh on a Inspiron 1525 :3

Apple removed support for Atom processors in response to many of the so-called "Hackintosh" netbooks. So, basically Apple didn't like people havingthe freedom to install their OS where they like, so they just *removed* support for the hardware from OS X. I know yours is not a netbook, but do you really want to support a company that does things like this (and much more draconian)? Based on what I've seen with iTunes, iPhone, and iPad I can only assume Apple is against free computing. I honestly believe Jobs would be happy if he could lock down the entire world under one architecture and OS...and then jack up the prices.


dont make a drama!!!

You will answer yourself: compare the price of microsoft office with the of the iWork. compare the prize of Windows7 Ultimate with the prize of Snow Leopard...

Microsoft and Apple are not full of dumb people, they are companies and they are here to make money, dont you think they just make it to make your work nicer!

Free computing??? LOL! Of course Apple and Microsoft are against free computing! don't tell me you have never downloaded microsoft's products, because it will be hard to believe.

Want free computing? Welcome to Google.
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PsychoCoder 

02 April 2010 - 10:08 AM
@Meister_Chicho I have never had a simple piece of illegal/pirated Microsoft software, ever so believe it or not. Plus this blog post wasn't about free computing, it was about how blind and gullible Mac users for believing some of the stuff that comes out of Steve Jobs mouth
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