[modi123_1]

Kr0w, on 18 March 2010 - 12:16 PM, said:

How about this: unstead of going out and getting high, go to the library and read a book.

Does it count that I rolled a doobie with a page I tore out of a book in the library? I think it was Chaucer or maybe a little 'Atlas Shrugged'.. no definitely a Clifford: The Big Red Dog book. I forget occasionally.

This post has been edited by modi123_1: 18 March 2010 - 11:34 AM

[Brewer]

modi123_1, on 18 March 2010 - 10:33 AM, said:

Kr0w, on 18 March 2010 - 12:16 PM, said:

How about this: unstead of going out and getting high, go to the library and read a book.

Does it count that I rolled a doobie with a page I tore out of a book in the library? I think it was Chaucer or maybe a little 'Atlas Shrugged'.. no definitely a Clifford: The Big Red Dog book. I forget occasionally.

Did you read the book first?

[TriggaMike]

Kr0w, on 18 March 2010 - 10:59 AM, said:

modi123_1, on 18 March 2010 - 10:33 AM, said:

Kr0w, on 18 March 2010 - 12:16 PM, said:

How about this: unstead of going out and getting high, go to the library and read a book.

Does it count that I rolled a doobie with a page I tore out of a book in the library? I think it was Chaucer or maybe a little 'Atlas Shrugged'.. no definitely a Clifford: The Big Red Dog book. I forget occasionally.

Did you read the book first?

That type of argument is stupid. Just because something is unproductive doesn't mean it should be illegal. That's like saying "Instead of watching TV all day, go read a book". Oh, alright, let's make TV illegal, I think it causes obesity and lack of motivation. Actually, video games are just as harmful. Junk food too. Jeez, looks like I better start compiling a list of stuff that we need to ban ASAP. Lots of unproductive stuff is causing people to be fat and stupid, better get this out of society because choice is something that is left for the weak because obviously there is no positive to having time to yourself that you do with however you please.

Just because the most obvious pot smokers are stupid, smell like weed, and do all this stupid stuff, doesn't mean that is representative of any large percentage of people who do it. That's like saying you don't like drinking because it makes your nose read and you smell like shit. Well, if you're an alcoholic that's true, but socially drinking will not give you a permanent red nose. You are making heavy assumptions about people who smoke pot, and what they do while they're high. Most people I know do it when they're alone or with other people who do it, so how you would have any solid grasp on how people use the substance is beyond me.

Now of course, it isn't a smart thing to do, but smart != legal. If that was the case we would've out the government by now.

[Brewer]

I didn't say it was unproductive; I said a majority of people who smoke pot are stupid when they do so, and that is the truth. The majority of people that smoke pot are either in high school or college, and they act extremely stupid when they toke a bit.

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Kr0w, on 19 March 2010 - 06:02 AM, said:

The majority of people that smoke pot are either in high school or college, and they act extremely stupid when they toke a bit.

Wonder if this has anything to do with that...high school and college students really aren't known for being sensible. And why does being stoned mean you are automatically stupid? I know many people who smoke weed and are perfectly able to have a normal, decent conversation. For that matter, where do you get the idea that most people who smoke it are in school or college? A lot of them will be, granted, because they are among the places you are most likely to come into contact with weed and have the opportunity to smoke it, but by no means is it limited to school kids. I know people in their 40s, 50s that smoke it and have done for years, with nothing stopping them living a perfectly normal life.

They certainly don't seem to be mentally impaired or brain damaged as some people here seem to believe they must be.

In case you hadn't guessed, my views on this lie with legalisation, for 3 reasons, all of which have already been mentioned here - medicinal purposes (good for alleviating pain and symptoms of certain illnesses), the economy (creation of new jobs, indeed a whole new industry), and the fact that weed is nowhere near as bad for you as some perfectly legal drugs, ie alcohol and tobacco, hell, even caffeine (I think it was listed as more dangerous to a human than weed was, I forget though).

[Sn0wBum]

Yes it should be legal. Treat it as alcohol and tobacco are treat today, if it bothers others to smoke in public then limit it to a person's household.

The argument that smoking MJ makes you stupid is a stupid argument within its self. I would bet that the very people that are arguing this point have drank an alcoholic beverage in their life and if someone would call them stupid for drinking, they would oppose those implications. Over use and being addicted to something have negative outcomes regardless of the addictive item's nature. People who are alcoholics may have a hard time holding jobs and social relationships while the casual drinker can function accordingly. The same goes with MJ. If you become addicted and smoke all day everyday , you will be stupid because you are stoned out of your mind and refuse to function without it in your system. A casual MJ smoker will do it at the proper time and only on occasion. This is not to say that a majority of people that smoke now aren't addicted, but you get the point. This is all IMHO.

[edkocodr]

Yes. George Washington both raised and toked on marijuana.

"One of my fondest memories, can be found with me sitting on my back veranda, smoking hemp, and looking out as far as the eye can see." -George Washington- Hmm... So the first President of our United States, the Commander of the Continental Army in the American Revolutionary War, and the Father of our country grew and smoked Marijuana. Interesting.

Yes, Marijuana in large quantities can be bad, but so can food. I'd much rather be stoned for a few hours than to be overweight for my entire life.

I find that a lot of people who are against pot don't even know the facts and just judge based on what they were taught or heard as a child. (Also I've noticed that hardly anyone against Marijuana have posted any sort of source defending their opinions, though nearly all pro-Marijuana posters have given atleast some sort of source. And, sadly, this 'phenomenon' isn't limited to these forums, nor the internet. I think if more people made educated opinions, rather than uninformed decisions based on cliche and the media, then the world would be a much better place.) Being a child your supposed to accept your parents opinions, as an adult your supposed to take those opinions and decide on whether they are right or not. This doesn't mean to make blind decisions, but to make educated decisions based on your own experiences.

My ex-girlfriends mother had cancer and her doctor gave her 6 months to live. She lost her hair, her weight, and almost lost her will to live. That is until she started smoking Marijuana. She smoked daily and was just as productive, motivated, intelligent, etc., as she ever had been. She became healthier, she gained weight(munchies =P), her hair grew back, and she shot right past her 'expiration date'. Was this just a fluke? If she hadn't smoked marijuana would she still be alive? Who knows? But she did, and she is still alive and I thank Marijuana for that.

Like another poster said, I've sat hot-boxed for extended periods of time, and not once caught a contact high. In middle school, prior to my discovery of Marijuana, I made crap grades. D's and F's. Once in High School, and after I started smoking, my grades skyrocketed. I was more attentive in class, understood things much easier, made better grades, and had a pretty good social life.

Are there people who smoke too much pot? Quite possibly. But 99% of things the world consumes can be consumed too much. Does Marijuana cause crime? I think not. Because Marijuana is prohibited it is normally associated with harder drugs and this could be the reason so many people think Marijuana is so horrible.

So should Marijuana be legalized? Yes. Should people be afraid of this plant. No. Should non-smokers do more research before they make rash decisions? Most definitely. I'll even point them in the right direction.

The National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws(NORML) The ultimate source of Marijuana laws and facts.

Marijuana Myths and Facts Another good source of Marijuana myths and facts.

[supersloth]

i think i heard california got a new vote on it on the ballot for november. if they do pass it, and it ends up helping them with their dire financial situation, it will only be a matter of time before it starts to spread. if i learned one thing from the wire, it's 'follow the money'

[timkd127]

I think it should be legalized and taxed however i do see a problem with it. Tobacco itself isnt all that dangerous, the carcinogens are the chemicals thats added by the ciggarette companies. I would be afraid that if big business were to get involved in the production of marijuana a similar thing could happen.

[edkocodr]

timkd127, on 26 March 2010 - 11:41 AM, said:

I think it should be legalized and taxed however i do see a problem with it. Tobacco itself isnt all that dangerous, the carcinogens are the chemicals thats added by the ciggarette companies. I would be afraid that if big business were to get involved in the production of marijuana a similar thing could happen.

As is my only concern. I don't think we would have to worry about chemicals introduced by fertilizers, but possibly addictive chemicals *purposely* added.

[TriggaMike]

edkocodr, on 27 March 2010 - 07:56 AM, said:

timkd127, on 26 March 2010 - 11:41 AM, said:

I think it should be legalized and taxed however i do see a problem with it. Tobacco itself isnt all that dangerous, the carcinogens are the chemicals thats added by the ciggarette companies. I would be afraid that if big business were to get involved in the production of marijuana a similar thing could happen.

As is my only concern. I don't think we would have to worry about chemicals introduced by fertilizers, but possibly addictive chemicals *purposely* added.

Yeah, WEED happens to be a, wait for it, WEED. This means it doesn't need anything to grow like mad. People definitely add additive chemicals to it, most just grow particular strains of it though. Genetic engineering of better plants is more common than adding chemicals though. Most things added to it are like, other drug such as Cocaine, PCP, and other things.