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We are looking for a good, secure voice encryption program for mobile phones. There seem to be so many in google search that I don't know which is better for us. There are free ones and very expensive ones. There are the hardware types and just scripts.
Can anyone recommend some good websites I can read about pros and cons of each programs and each types.
Thanks
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Need a voice encryption program for cell phones
Posted 23 May 2009 - 03:25 AM
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Re: Need a voice encryption program for cell phones
Posted 23 May 2009 - 05:25 AM
Since this isn't a programming question, more of a software question, I'm moving this to the Computer Support & Operating Systems forum 
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 05:56 PM
no2pencil, on 23 May, 2009 - 04:31 AM, said:
What non-scam reason would anyone want to encrypt their voice on a mobile phone?
I understand why you would think that way. But I have good reasons.
Anyway, I'm asking a simple question about legitimate computer products.
You could simply have ignored me or said you didn't know.
But thank you for your answers.
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Re: Need a voice encryption program for cell phones
Posted 23 May 2009 - 06:12 PM
To uphold a level of respect & honesty with all of our members, we need to judge how this information can be used.
Any answers to this thread will probably go under heavy review. Regardless of how you intend to use it, we can't be held responsible for someone using an answered question to run a scam.
So no, I don't feel as if though I should not have responded. It's part of my moderation duties.
& I'm still extremely curious to know these "legitimate reasons".
Any answers to this thread will probably go under heavy review. Regardless of how you intend to use it, we can't be held responsible for someone using an answered question to run a scam.
So no, I don't feel as if though I should not have responded. It's part of my moderation duties.
& I'm still extremely curious to know these "legitimate reasons".
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Re: Need a voice encryption program for cell phones
Posted 23 May 2009 - 07:50 PM
I'm working with an opposition party in a country run by a military government. (Since there's no way to prove this I don't see how it will help)
If you think that these encryption software do not work for some reasons, please let me know so I'll be even more skeptical.
I'm looking to buy one, unless there are some free ones I can try, not to sell a service.
Thanks again for the answer.
If you think that these encryption software do not work for some reasons, please let me know so I'll be even more skeptical.
I'm looking to buy one, unless there are some free ones I can try, not to sell a service.
Thanks again for the answer.
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Re: Need a voice encryption program for cell phones
Posted 24 May 2009 - 12:10 PM
I personally believe in the right to use encryption to have private conversations -- however many countries have laws about what can be used.
While I am sure that encrypted phones exist on the market (a Google search confirms) I would imagine that various countries will have laws governing their use. On the newer smart phones it should be relatively simple to write encryption for VoIP programs.
Keep in mind though that encryption is non-trivial and to get encryption to run at real-time speeds requires a good about of processing power. I think that you will find that "encrypted cell phones" tend to use hardware encryption rather than software encryption.
While I am sure that encrypted phones exist on the market (a Google search confirms) I would imagine that various countries will have laws governing their use. On the newer smart phones it should be relatively simple to write encryption for VoIP programs.
Keep in mind though that encryption is non-trivial and to get encryption to run at real-time speeds requires a good about of processing power. I think that you will find that "encrypted cell phones" tend to use hardware encryption rather than software encryption.
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Posted 25 May 2009 - 09:02 PM
Thank you Nick for your thoughts.
I'm pretty sure it is illegal where I am or at least can be made illegal very easily, but then so is freedom of expression as guaranteed by the UN Charter.
Anyway, After a few days reading, I have yet to find a credible independent report on the subject. Every piece I've read is pretty much a sales pitch. I'll keep on looking and watching this forum in case someone comes up with something interesting.
Thanks again,
I'm pretty sure it is illegal where I am or at least can be made illegal very easily, but then so is freedom of expression as guaranteed by the UN Charter.
Anyway, After a few days reading, I have yet to find a credible independent report on the subject. Every piece I've read is pretty much a sales pitch. I'll keep on looking and watching this forum in case someone comes up with something interesting.
Thanks again,
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Posted 17 August 2010 - 05:34 PM
Hi there.
Perhaps I can chip in on some ideas.
There are plenty of security companies offering voice encryption on mobile phones, and certainly much of these can be "googled".
Nevertheless, anything that is widely available as "standard" or commercial off the shelf products, is opened to personal judgement on how the encryption works, algorithms used and whether or not if it is a purely software or hardware based encryption, and if the product is subject to Export Control. The best of course would be a combination of both hardware + software based encryption.
Whatever you can find over the Internet will always have similar sales pitch tone.
We have to accept this as many companies pay top advert dollars to search engines so that their websites would be prominent to "search" results.
Back to your main question and answers.
1. The higher the security, the higher the cost. Logic. AES ? Pretty standard.
2. Identify if you need to secure Voice and SMS too ?
3. What phones / mobile platforms that you want it secured ?
4. Review of the solutions offered by companies and from which country of origin ? (CRITICAL !!!)
5. Encryption key management ?
Anyway, deploying Encryption is like a kid going to an ice cream store.
Some like Vanilla ice cream, some like Chocolate ice cream and while some like others.
But they are all good ice cream anyway.
It's a personal choice and relative to one's budget.
If the information you need to protect is of low value, then obviously you would not be spending top dollars to protect. But if the information is off very high value, then price becomes secondary.
Catching cheating spouse, monitoring on your kids conversation with friends, or employees may sound like a right market market for commercial products suited for mass market.
But then, if it is for National Security or Politics, then it changes the whole game plan.
From your initial request, it's primarily meant for the political use.
Again, one can be the opposition party today, and the the ruling party next, and obviously becomes the Government of tomorrow. Depends on how you see it.
So unless you can refine your search on your requirements, obviously you will be getting heaps of questions thrown back to you.
And how sure if such security solutions do not fall into the wrong hands ?
Tetraman
Perhaps I can chip in on some ideas.
There are plenty of security companies offering voice encryption on mobile phones, and certainly much of these can be "googled".
Nevertheless, anything that is widely available as "standard" or commercial off the shelf products, is opened to personal judgement on how the encryption works, algorithms used and whether or not if it is a purely software or hardware based encryption, and if the product is subject to Export Control. The best of course would be a combination of both hardware + software based encryption.
Whatever you can find over the Internet will always have similar sales pitch tone.
We have to accept this as many companies pay top advert dollars to search engines so that their websites would be prominent to "search" results.
Back to your main question and answers.
1. The higher the security, the higher the cost. Logic. AES ? Pretty standard.
2. Identify if you need to secure Voice and SMS too ?
3. What phones / mobile platforms that you want it secured ?
4. Review of the solutions offered by companies and from which country of origin ? (CRITICAL !!!)
5. Encryption key management ?
Anyway, deploying Encryption is like a kid going to an ice cream store.
Some like Vanilla ice cream, some like Chocolate ice cream and while some like others.
But they are all good ice cream anyway.
It's a personal choice and relative to one's budget.
If the information you need to protect is of low value, then obviously you would not be spending top dollars to protect. But if the information is off very high value, then price becomes secondary.
Catching cheating spouse, monitoring on your kids conversation with friends, or employees may sound like a right market market for commercial products suited for mass market.
But then, if it is for National Security or Politics, then it changes the whole game plan.
From your initial request, it's primarily meant for the political use.
Again, one can be the opposition party today, and the the ruling party next, and obviously becomes the Government of tomorrow. Depends on how you see it.
So unless you can refine your search on your requirements, obviously you will be getting heaps of questions thrown back to you.
And how sure if such security solutions do not fall into the wrong hands ?
Tetraman
shadowBean, on 25 May 2009 - 08:02 PM, said:
Thank you Nick for your thoughts.
I'm pretty sure it is illegal where I am or at least can be made illegal very easily, but then so is freedom of expression as guaranteed by the UN Charter.
Anyway, After a few days reading, I have yet to find a credible independent report on the subject. Every piece I've read is pretty much a sales pitch. I'll keep on looking and watching this forum in case someone comes up with something interesting.
Thanks again,
I'm pretty sure it is illegal where I am or at least can be made illegal very easily, but then so is freedom of expression as guaranteed by the UN Charter.
Anyway, After a few days reading, I have yet to find a credible independent report on the subject. Every piece I've read is pretty much a sales pitch. I'll keep on looking and watching this forum in case someone comes up with something interesting.
Thanks again,
This post has been edited by no2pencil: 17 August 2010 - 08:16 PM
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Re: Need a voice encryption program for cell phones
Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:22 AM
Dear no2pencil,
The link provide <Removed> was a genuine link where it details out all security issues on mobile phone.
I am not sure why you have treated it as a Spam link ?
Regards,
Tetraman
The link provide <Removed> was a genuine link where it details out all security issues on mobile phone.
I am not sure why you have treated it as a Spam link ?
Regards,
Tetraman
This post has been edited by macosxnerd101: 18 August 2010 - 11:50 AM
Reason for edit:: After further review, the link will remain removed.
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Re: Need a voice encryption program for cell phones
Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:10 PM
What are you, stoned or stupid? You don't prank someone across foreign borders from your house, you'll get nailed by the FBI. Where are your brains, in your ass? Don't you know anything? Stupid, man. It's universally stupid.
That's funny that you are looking for software like that. I just saw this = http://www.spoofcard.com/ at the gas station today. It's like they are telling kids that it's ok to lie and play games with people.
That's funny that you are looking for software like that. I just saw this = http://www.spoofcard.com/ at the gas station today. It's like they are telling kids that it's ok to lie and play games with people.
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