[Tom9729]

Fedora 11 was released a few days ago.

Didn't get a chance to install it until today. Chose to give KDE4 a try (I've been a Gnome user for 5-6 years) and so far I'm pretty impressed. Kopete is a little weird, but I really like Konqueror and Amarok (Internet Browser and Music Player).

[ge0rge007]

Yesss! KDE rocks!
Try to disable javascript from konquerror and i think you will see the fastest browser...
Also as you will allready know you could have dynamic wallpapers without extra software, i know this is now important but it has it so you can use it.

Have a good time at KDE!

[numeric]

I've yet to give Fedora a "proper" go - downloading it now to take a look. So many distro's, so little time.....

What apps are bundled with it? Anything interesting?

[Tom9729]

Wow I'm not sure why I never replied, sorry.

Here is the Fedora 11 feature list.

numeric, on 19 Jun, 2009 - 05:07 AM, said:

What apps are bundled with it? Anything interesting?

Nothing out of the ordinary. Most distros generally ship the same applications. Some of the new KDE apps are cool, but I eventually did a reinstall with the Gnome version.

Only problem that I have run into so far is that the Intel ICH6 audio driver is buggy in recent kernel versions. I'm probably just going to stick with the version I have now until Fedora 12 is released, hopefully it will be fixed by then.

[Nykc]

Haven't used Fedora 11 yet or 10 for that matter but from what I have heard from some of my Linux podcasts - KDE 4 has made some really big strides and is gaining ground rapidly.

I think KDE caught a bad rap earlier from all the hype on the KDE 3.4 release then it let everyone down.

But in regards to KDE 4
A lot more Ubuntu users are migrating to Kubuntu for that reason alone.

[Tom9729]

Nykc, on 11 Aug, 2009 - 02:06 PM, said:

Haven't used Fedora 11 yet or 10 for that matter but from what I have heard from some of my Linux podcasts - KDE 4 has made some really big strides and is gaining ground rapidly.

I think KDE caught a bad rap earlier from all the hype on the KDE 3.4 release then it let everyone down.

But in regards to KDE 4
A lot more Ubuntu users are migrating to Kubuntu for that reason alone.

I used KDE4 for a few weeks and I liked it (mostly).

My problems with it:
* Kwin's compositing does not work on my laptop. I use the Open Source radeon driver which is still being developed so I'm not too critical about this, but compositing works fine in Gnome with Metacity (and Compiz works fine).
* Kwin's window borders become corrupted sometimes, again this is probably mostly a driver issue but it simply does not happen in any other DE I've tried.
* Python plasmoids were broken in F11, someone forgot some packages and it took awhile to track them down... This is really more of a Fedora issue than a KDE issue but you would think someone would have tested this before the release.
* Random weirdness? I'm not even sure how to describe this. Several times most of my desktop just disappeared.
* Some of the big KDE apps crashed several times during normal usage...

I really liked some of the KDE apps though (Karbon, Krita, Amarok when it wasn't crashing ).

Gnome doesn't have anything like plasmoids (gdesklets, screenlets just aren't as integrated). I generally keep a pretty clean desktop but having something similar to iGoogle on my desktop would be pretty nice if it worked well.

I may try KDE4 again when Fedora 12 is released. Hopefully they will do a better job next time...

Fedora 12 feature list here btw.