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Posted 29 December 2009 - 08:19 AM
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Posted 29 December 2009 - 09:17 AM
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Posted 29 December 2009 - 09:31 AM
I really appreciate how Cameron built Pandora from scratch including its habitats, culture, flora, and fauna....
The complexity of the world is astounding...
yeah...yeah..people been comparing it with "Dances with Wolves", "Aliens", and Miyazaki movies or smurfs..and whether the movie gives strong environmental message... but still I give it 10/10....and it is worth 12 years meticulous making process...
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Posted 29 December 2009 - 10:57 AM
ethereal1m, on 29 Dec, 2009 - 10:31 AM, said:
I thought it was based on FernGully, but with bigger bulldozers. Maybe that's just me.
It's a pretty movie, the story is told well, I quite enjoyed it and will probably watch it again. However, there's very little original here. Not only have the scifi themes be done over and over, but the broadest elements of plot are so familiar that they didn't even have to explain them.
I was actually mildly distracted by anticipating where the movie was going to go next. From beginning to end, no surprises.
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Posted 30 December 2009 - 10:57 PM
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Posted 31 December 2009 - 11:21 AM
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Posted 31 December 2009 - 06:57 PM
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Posted 01 January 2010 - 05:51 AM
baavgai, on 29 Dec, 2009 - 09:57 AM, said:
Nope, I thought the exact same thing. Ahh reviving old childhood memories.
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The plot was a little generic, making the ending very predictable and a little unsatisfying.. Other wise it was pretty good. I may see it again.
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Posted 03 January 2010 - 07:44 PM
As for it being really well-done trash, I'd almost agree. Some parts were just terrible. I think that the part where her father dies was extremely cheesy. But, other than that and a few other small parts, it was a great movie, and it was a great excuse for playing around with the latest animation technology. The jungles of Pandora were amazing!! I'd love to see it in 3D to see how they made that out, but it still looks awesome in 2D.
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Posted 04 January 2010 - 09:32 AM
It was basically a three hour "look what I can do with technology" ad.
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Posted 04 January 2010 - 11:11 AM
cmh0114, on 3 Jan, 2010 - 09:44 PM, said:
http://www.geeksares...ahontas-avatar/
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Posted 04 January 2010 - 11:37 AM
cmh0114, on 3 Jan, 2010 - 08:44 PM, said:
Hmm... I'd blocked that one out. I do recall it was recycled pap, so that fits.
The "outsider goes native" story is archetypal. It was massively popular in Victorian times, when the modern world just seemed too complex. It shows up in various forms, the outsider always being "us" and ultimately sympathizing with somehow purer "them." The story of Moses is a variant, as he discovers he is them. The mutiny on the bounty, true story, has strong elements of this and is probably why it's recalled so well. Note, the ship tasked with picking up the mutineers was the HMS Pandora.
Tarzan is a similar story and Burroughs' other well know Mars series was a noted influence. It's a good formula. A scifi and American Western stable, actually. Curiously, in spite of all the well meaning of the author, there's always a little social arrogance that creeps into such stories. Kind of a "you may be a wonderful people and where I come from is miserable, but I'm still smarter than you."
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Posted 04 January 2010 - 01:19 PM
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Posted 04 January 2010 - 02:01 PM
baavgai, on 4 Jan, 2010 - 10:37 AM, said:
cmh0114, on 3 Jan, 2010 - 08:44 PM, said:
Hmm... I'd blocked that one out. I do recall it was recycled pap, so that fits.
The "outsider goes native" story is archetypal. It was massively popular in Victorian times, when the modern world just seemed too complex. It shows up in various forms, the outsider always being "us" and ultimately sympathizing with somehow purer "them." The story of Moses is a variant, as he discovers he is them. The mutiny on the bounty, true story, has strong elements of this and is probably why it's recalled so well. Note, the ship tasked with picking up the mutineers was the HMS Pandora.
Tarzan is a similar story and Burroughs' other well know Mars series was a noted influence. It's a good formula. A scifi and American Western stable, actually. Curiously, in spite of all the well meaning of the author, there's always a little social arrogance that creeps into such stories. Kind of a "you may be a wonderful people and where I come from is miserable, but I'm still smarter than you."
mix in a little 'i will save you by becoming just as oppressed as you but save the day in order that i may never actually become oppressed'
district 9 is good because it's a variant of the same story with actual consequences.
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Posted 04 January 2010 - 04:40 PM
supersloth, on 4 Jan, 2010 - 03:01 PM, said:
District 9 basically set up apartheid in the land that popularized the word. However, rather than feel-good shallow sugar coating, it both satirized the ugliness and forced you to see it.
Aside from shaky cam, the only thing I didn't much like about the movie was that none of characters were even remotely likable. You need to have some connection, even it it's intense dislike, to care about what happens.

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