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#16
Re: Toyota Problems, Hardware or Software
Posted 11 March 2010 - 07:15 PM
This is why my uncle said he would never buy an automatic. Push in the clutch, shift into neutral, and let the engine rev all that it wants. If the clutch won't work, you grind the gears a little. Better than crashing into something. He says with the standard he saves on his brakes as well.
OT: Considering how easy it is for a computer to freeze, I believe it has something do to with the computer.
#17
Re: Toyota Problems, Hardware or Software
Posted 11 March 2010 - 07:47 PM
#18
Re: Toyota Problems, Hardware or Software
Posted 11 March 2010 - 07:48 PM
#19
Re: Toyota Problems, Hardware or Software
Posted 11 March 2010 - 08:21 PM
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#20
Re: Toyota Problems, Hardware or Software
Posted 11 March 2010 - 10:31 PM
For example:
1> you push the gas pedal, it moves a sensor
2> computer reads the sensor and the computer moves a servo.
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You can't turn it off if the computer has malfunctioned. Just like your computer when it locks up, you have to hold the button down. If that does not work then you have to disconnect the battery.
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I've tried this with my old 1981 truck, It will let you turn off the engine while driving but the steering wheel will lock in place if you turn the key all the way.
Plus, my manual transmission has brass syncros in it that will not let you shift gears until the right RPMs are meet.
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From what my engineering friend told me, even the transmission is computer / servo controlled. If the computer freezes, then it will not let you change gears.
#21
Re: Toyota Problems, Hardware or Software
Posted 11 March 2010 - 10:58 PM
calvinthedestroyer, on 11 March 2010 - 09:31 PM, said:
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From what my engineering friend told me, even the transmission is computer / servo controlled. If the computer freezes, then it will not let you change gears.
I'm hoping that the shifting and the accelerating systems are two different systems. There is no proof that cars in "infinite speed up" mode are unable to shift. People have gotten these cars under control, so there must be someway to unstick the throttle, likely through either turning off the ignition (but it will lock your steering) or shifting to neutral. Seriously, if neither of those work, you're fucked anyway. Why are we arguing. All we said that if you don't try to shift to neutral before calling 911, you are officially a fuck stick. Like honestly, what's 911 going to do for you? Dispatch an ambulance to come pick your dead ass up? Great.
#22
Re: Toyota Problems, Hardware or Software
Posted 11 March 2010 - 11:03 PM
TriggaMike, on 11 March 2010 - 11:58 PM, said:
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The caller was driving eastbound on Interstate 8 near San Diego as this was happening, reports CBS News correspondent Ben Tracy. At one point the car was traveling at 90 mph.
The Highway Patrol responded. To get the runaway car to stop, they actually had to put their patrol car in front of the Prius and step on the brakes. The car eventually stopped near La Posta Bridge, but the whole even lasted for about 20 minutes.
#23
Re: Toyota Problems, Hardware or Software
Posted 11 March 2010 - 11:15 PM
no2pencil, on 11 March 2010 - 10:03 PM, said:
TriggaMike, on 11 March 2010 - 11:58 PM, said:
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The caller was driving eastbound on Interstate 8 near San Diego as this was happening, reports CBS News correspondent Ben Tracy. At one point the car was traveling at 90 mph.
The Highway Patrol responded. To get the runaway car to stop, they actually had to put their patrol car in front of the Prius and step on the brakes. The car eventually stopped near La Posta Bridge, but the whole even lasted for about 20 minutes.
Still, that guy was really lucky. The family that died wasn't so lucky and they called 911 as well. It really depends where you are and what time it is, who is driving, and just how fast your car maxes out at. Seems like somewhere around 90mph is about the typical speed I've heard from different reports? That isn't too fast, faster than you'd wanna be doing any serious curves at though.
#24
Re: Toyota Problems, Hardware or Software
Posted 11 March 2010 - 11:15 PM
One of my friends car was stolen ( a toyota avensis ) they found the car the next day just past the border in lesotho abandoned and stuck in a ditch. This is what the car looks like when he got his car back:
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Re: Toyota Problems, Hardware or Software
Posted 11 March 2010 - 11:20 PM
#26
Re: Toyota Problems, Hardware or Software
Posted 11 March 2010 - 11:20 PM
TriggaMike, on 12 March 2010 - 12:15 AM, said:
You're actually going to defend stating that calling 911 is a waste of time? If putting the car into neutral, or turning off the car does not work... one is left with very little options. Sure, that guy was lucky. But when you say it like you did... I mean seriously? What does calling 911 do? Gee uhm, save the "fuck sticks" ass. I really have a problem with you calling the driver(s) a fuck stick & that stating that 911 won't help. What is wrong with you?
#27
Re: Toyota Problems, Hardware or Software
Posted 11 March 2010 - 11:30 PM
I mean Ford had a car (Pinto) that would explode if rear-ended just right. Right now Honda is recalling more and more cars as the days go by but I dont see the government pushing criminal charges against them.
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#28
Re: Toyota Problems, Hardware or Software
Posted 11 March 2010 - 11:33 PM
#29
Re: Toyota Problems, Hardware or Software
Posted 12 March 2010 - 12:34 AM
Remedial action for a standard:
1) throw in neutral or hit clutch 2) leave the car in gear and stand on the brake and pull e-brake (provided you actually take the time to service your brakes).
#30
Re: Toyota Problems, Hardware or Software
Posted 12 March 2010 - 01:02 AM
no2pencil, on 11 March 2010 - 10:20 PM, said:
TriggaMike, on 12 March 2010 - 12:15 AM, said:
You're actually going to defend stating that calling 911 is a waste of time? If putting the car into neutral, or turning off the car does not work... one is left with very little options. Sure, that guy was lucky. But when you say it like you did... I mean seriously? What does calling 911 do? Gee uhm, save the "fuck sticks" ass. I really have a problem with you calling the driver(s) a fuck stick & that stating that 911 won't help. What is wrong with you?
Chill out. What I meant by past statements isn't that calling 911 is a bad idea, but if it's your first and only plan of action, you should get your head checked.

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