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Re: Crossdressers and discrimination

Posted 13 June 2011 - 12:04 PM

I freaking LOVE crossdressers.

But yeah... what everyone else said... dress code is dress code. Not hiring someone because they crossdress outside the office is akin to my boss firing me because I enjoy wearing bell bottoms and platform shoes when I'm off the clock.
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Re: Crossdressers and discrimination

Posted 13 June 2011 - 12:18 PM

Every company has dress codes. However, few are gender specific, because that can be considered discriminatory. They'll usually read "employees may wear..."

Even if dress codes are gender specific, gender is no longer a societal constant... If Bob has some life changing epiphany that he wants to be Roberta and hack his junk off, she can wear the dress without worry.

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Re: Crossdressers and discrimination

Posted 13 June 2011 - 12:27 PM

"hack his junk off"... total classic! :)

But yeah, if you are on the company's time, you are representing them and they can enforce you wear certain things. Recently they have also been going after people who do certain things on their own time if it makes their employer look bad. Most recent cases involve people saying things bad about their place of work and even though they are saying it on their own time, it is still against the company they represent.

So my guess is that they can fire someone for what they do on the job and possibly what they do off the job if some how it can be tied back to their place of work. In short, follow the dress code rules while at work and keep work out of your personal life and things tend to be just fine.

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Re: Crossdressers and discrimination

Posted 13 June 2011 - 08:45 PM

im going to end up restating what a bunch of people said but here goes

the company has a right to require you to dress in a specific manner, even dynamically if they choose. your going off to meet someone as a representative of the company then they can and should be able to force you to ware what ever they want; if you don't like it, quit.

what the person dose on their own time is their deal. it should have no standing in the work place. to repress a person in any way based off of off work legal activity is wrong and IMO if it's not illegal it should be.

while i wish society could get over it's homophobia so this wouldn't be as much of an issue, i believe that it is a legitimate business concern to want your employes, while representing the company, to dress in a way that your customers would favor. this often means dressing men in "men's" clothing and dressing women in "women's" clothing.

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Re: Crossdressers and discrimination

Posted 13 June 2011 - 09:51 PM

I might be amenable to bob being 'roberta' in the office, during working hours, as long as 'roberta' also conforms to the dress code. Other than that, the uglier and more unpleasant looking a cross dresser, the easier they are to spot, and the only real conflict I've ever seen with them is from people who couldn't tell they had found a cross dresser in the first place.
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Re: Crossdressers and discrimination

Posted 13 June 2011 - 10:41 PM

@ishka - Why is the assumption that cross dressing is homosexual-related?

Am I getting that self expression is regulated by the capitalistic desire for a positive cash flow for a business?
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Posted 14 June 2011 - 02:54 AM

Crossdressers are ok
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Posted 14 June 2011 - 04:25 AM

I really don't really see the point in solving an argument between you and your friend on DIC. What are you going to do. Are you going to get him and point at you screen and say, "Lookz seez waht teh programmerz zay!". lol.
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Posted 14 June 2011 - 05:23 AM

You're the employer and you're completely free to allow\deny employment to anyone you choose once it's inline with the state law.

What you wear to an occasion or workplace determines the level of importance that thing\place is to you. Showing up in a dress just mocks the employer and his company.

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Re: Crossdressers and discrimination

Posted 14 June 2011 - 05:31 AM

I think it had the potential to be an interesting topic, but you guys are jumping on the "lol ur 13 u r dum!" bandwagon.

Now as for me, if a guy came in for an interview in drag, I honestly wouldn't care unless it was obvious because then they're probably mocking/looking for attention. Most people with gender confusion or transvestites do it and do it well because they make sure to hit every detail (usually). Then I wouldn't care. I'd hire them based on skill, but I'd request that they stick to one gender as not to freak people out and make it uncomfortable for others.

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 05:33 AM

indeed, cross-dressing is a choice. You can choose to wear "normal" clothes around the work place.
It's perfectly reasonable to be rejected on a job for cross-dressing.

I like to wear metal (band) t-shirts and army boots.
But when I go to work I put on a regular shirt, usually a plain black T, and casual shoes. No-one has to tell me to wear different clothes, I just adjust to the work environment.
That is no different than the situation a cross-dresser would be in.

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Re: Crossdressers and discrimination

Posted 14 June 2011 - 05:36 AM

Even if it's a pretty dress?
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Posted 14 June 2011 - 05:43 AM

We all know that it's the person that wears it, that makes a dress pretty.
So in the case of a guy in a dress, I don't think it can be pretty :P
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Re: Crossdressers and discrimination

Posted 14 June 2011 - 05:53 AM

I've seen some REALLY pretty crossdressers.
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Re: Crossdressers and discrimination

Posted 14 June 2011 - 07:06 AM

Sorry... but this is freaking hot. :wub:

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