[NeoTifa]

I know, that's what I'm talking about!

[bflosabre91]

that video makes me really sad for some reason. i dont even like cats but im not digging the clip on the back thing.

[Gavisann]

bflosabre91, on 19 July 2011 - 11:14 AM, said:

that video makes me really sad for some reason. i dont even like cats but im not digging the clip on the back thing.

It didn't appeared disabled, it appeared super pissed. I don't have a cat, but I would never to that to my dog.

[dorknexus]

let's see here...

when cat's are kittens, their mothers pick them up (with their sharp ass teeth) by the scruff of their necks (where that clip is being applied). To aid in transportation it causes them to lie still. This trait is carried on into adult hood. I've seen vet's grab cats by the scruff of their necks to subdue them if they were panicing. So long as the clip isn't super strong and you don't leave it on for very long, I don't really see a problem.

Mothers also do the same thing to puppies but you wouldn't want to do that when they are adults as dogs put on a lot of weight when they become adults (most anyways).

Also, the comment earlier about dogs being more aggressive or unpredictable...If that's the case then you clearly don't understand dogs. I've had dogs my entire life and never once had a dog that was aggressive or unpredictable towards me. The reason dogs become aggressive is because they are abused or neglected. I could make the same comments about neglected/abused cats.

Also, dogs are super loyal and super affectionate. Cats seem like they really don't give a fuck and just want you to feed them and clean up after them. Not to say that cats don't bond with their owners I just think it's probably 10 fold more so with dogs. Dogs were also bread to be that way so there's that aspect of it. We've all seen the pictures on the web of dogs laying next to their master's dead bodies, or ontop of their graves. LOYAL. If I get sick my dog knows that shit and she stresses over it. Meanwhile my cat doesn't give a fuck and goes on licking his balls.

Dogs are the only other mammals (besides other humans) that can interpret human facial expressions and other body language. Dogs were bread for centuries to be in tune with human emotions and other cues as it makes it easier to work with them. They were orignally used for work which makes many breeds useful. How many other pets have use beyond just sitting around and being fluffy? You can hunt, herd, guard, and more with dogs.

I'll take a dog anyday, over any other animal. Best companions evar.

This post has been edited by Dark_Nexus: 19 July 2011 - 10:03 AM

[NeoTifa]

Dark_Nexus, on 19 July 2011 - 12:48 PM, said:

Dogs were bread

Dogbread

[dorknexus]

you're just pissed because your animals only want you for your food.

[NeoTifa]

Oh shut up, Justin. You know I love to hate you. They also want to stick their noses in my mouth.

[supersloth]

SO MUCH SEXUAL TENSION IN HERE.

[dorknexus]

i'll take it out on my hand.

[supersloth]

[dorknexus]

is that what vaginas look like?!

[hookiethe1]

Dark_Nexus, on 19 July 2011 - 09:48 AM, said:

Dogs are the only other mammals (besides other humans) that can interpret human facial expressions and other body language. Dogs were bread for centuries to be in tune with human emotions and other cues as it makes it easier to work with them. They were orignally used for work which makes many breeds useful. How many other pets have use beyond just sitting around and being fluffy? You can hunt, herd, guard, and more with dogs.

Also, dogs are the only animals other than humans who enjoy doing work.

[baavgai]

Dark_Nexus, on 19 July 2011 - 12:48 PM, said:

Also, dogs are super loyal and super affectionate. Cats seem like they really don't give a fuck

Dog people always want their pets to kiss ass. Then they call it a virtue and complain that other animals fail to achieve such a level of suck up. Dogs are pack animals. Humans take on an alpha role in their pack sensibility. Thus, dogs are always trying to ingratiate themselves to maintain their perceived status in the pack.

Dark_Nexus, on 19 July 2011 - 12:48 PM, said:

Dogs are the only other mammals (besides other humans) that can interpret human facial expressions

Hardly. This feat makes them in intellectual equals of pigeons. I'm sure there are others, but perhaps they're too smart to let on.

The reason cats aren't part of lab tests that often is that they aren't eager to please. This makes them difficult test subjects; dogs are the easy choice.

Dark_Nexus, on 19 July 2011 - 12:48 PM, said:

How many other pets have use beyond just sitting around and being fluffy?

Cats are superior hunters to dogs. They work alone, hunt silently, and kill efficiently. The domestic kitty has controlled vermin populations in all civilized nations since the beginning of history. You don't think the Egyptians worshiped them just because they were cute?

It's a cat's very indifference that cat owner cherish. Any idiot can befriend a dog. Cats, on the other hand, either choose their person or not. There is no hind brain motivation to a cat, no misplaced social instinct. A cat is honest in it's acceptance.

[no2pencil]

Gavisann, on 19 July 2011 - 12:20 PM, said:

bflosabre91, on 19 July 2011 - 11:14 AM, said:

that video makes me really sad for some reason. i dont even like cats but im not digging the clip on the back thing.

It didn't appeared disabled, it appeared super pissed. I don't have a cat, but I would never to that to my dog.

Grabbing a cats scruff? Sometimes you have to. Unless your cat really likes to be held (& most do not) you can't just ask them to wait a moment. When they get antsy they start flailing & clawing, & doing everything that they can to get away. Once you grab their scruff they know who's in control.

Anytime our cats decide they are going to push the limits & jump onto a counter, or bite feet, we grab them by the scruff & scold them. Just like said, it's what their mothers did, so it puts them in perspective. Plus they know what's gonna happen when they mis-behave & it helps to keep them in check.

In fact I only scruff our Orange cat Melman when he decides to start bullying the other cats. Mostly my elder cat. He'll knock her down & stand over her, & he meows in a specific way, taunting her. When he bites her, he doesn't let go, he'll bite hard & deep, removing furr & causing blood. So when I hear her scream, if I come running & find furr all over, & in his mouth, he gets scruffed & ran under cold water. Best we can figure he's doing to get my attention, & from what we've researched cats don't make a distinction between positive & negative attention. So to not feed into his reason for causing such a situation, I only scold him when he does this repetitively, or when it's vicious enough that I want him to stop.

As for the kittens, like I said, I only scruff them when they are biting feet.

The one thing you never, ever, ever want to do is hit a cat in the head. Like a dog you sort of swat their nose & tell them no. Cats don't have the elongated face. You never ever strike a cat. The scruff is safer, & more meaningful form of situation control, & motherly parenting.

[NeoTifa]

supersloth, on 19 July 2011 - 01:58 PM, said:

The fuck?!