I am asked to make a venn diagram of the following sets but don't know what the little C next to some of the letters means.
Does anyone know?
Ac∩Bc∩C = Ac∩B∩Cc
Question 6 on this page to see if in context.
http://www.cs.umanit...0/CS2130A1.html
Discrete math symbol question
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#2
Re: Discrete math symbol question
Posted 04 October 2011 - 03:44 PM
That's a new one for me also. So I look it on
http://en.wikipedia....ematical_symbol
And it directed me to
http://en.wikipedia....f_the_continuum
http://en.wikipedia....ematical_symbol
And it directed me to
http://en.wikipedia....f_the_continuum
#3
Re: Discrete math symbol question
Posted 04 October 2011 - 04:04 PM
Not sure, but I think he mean complement like saying:
A'∩B'∩C
#4
Re: Discrete math symbol question
Posted 04 October 2011 - 07:22 PM
Yes I figured out that it means compliment.
Now I have another question.
On the assignment it says show that
Ac∩Bc∩C = Ac∩B∩Cc = ∅, B ≠ C, and B ∩ C ≠ ∅.
But
Ac∩Bc∩C is...

Ac∩B∩Cc is...

Neither of those sets are equal and neither can equal the empty set.....pretty confused here LOL.
Now I have another question.
On the assignment it says show that
Ac∩Bc∩C = Ac∩B∩Cc = ∅, B ≠ C, and B ∩ C ≠ ∅.
But
Ac∩Bc∩C is...

Ac∩B∩Cc is...

Neither of those sets are equal and neither can equal the empty set.....pretty confused here LOL.
#5
Re: Discrete math symbol question
Posted 04 October 2011 - 07:32 PM
Complement.
"You draw nice pictures" is a compliment.
All kidding aside, you are overlooking the third assumption: B ∩ C ≠ ∅.
"You draw nice pictures" is a compliment.
All kidding aside, you are overlooking the third assumption: B ∩ C ≠ ∅.
#6
Re: Discrete math symbol question
Posted 04 October 2011 - 07:39 PM
OMG I though it was B ∩ C = ∅. LMAO.
Ok so now what does that exactly when B and C ≠ empty set?
Does that simply imply that B overlaps C? Does this mean that A does not overlap anything?
Because if B and C do overlap the diagrams would be different, but this would STILL not be true Ac∩Bc∩C = Ac∩B∩Cc = ∅
Ok so now what does that exactly when B and C ≠ empty set?
Does that simply imply that B overlaps C? Does this mean that A does not overlap anything?
Because if B and C do overlap the diagrams would be different, but this would STILL not be true Ac∩Bc∩C = Ac∩B∩Cc = ∅
#7
Re: Discrete math symbol question
Posted 04 October 2011 - 07:51 PM
Don't say "B and C ≠ empty set", say B intersection C ≠ empty set.
So yes, if the intersection of B and C is NOT the empty set, then it must be that B and C have at least some elements in common. This could mean that B equals C, or that B includes all of C, or that C includes all of B, or that B and C partially overlap.
You are given that B does NOT equal C, but any of the other 3 cases is possible.
You are not given any information about A. A might include all of B and all of C, none of B and all of C, none of B and part of C, none of B and none of C, and various other possibilities ... Since you are only asked to make a single Venn diagram presumably you can choose any of those to illustrate.
So yes, if the intersection of B and C is NOT the empty set, then it must be that B and C have at least some elements in common. This could mean that B equals C, or that B includes all of C, or that C includes all of B, or that B and C partially overlap.
You are given that B does NOT equal C, but any of the other 3 cases is possible.
You are not given any information about A. A might include all of B and all of C, none of B and all of C, none of B and part of C, none of B and none of C, and various other possibilities ... Since you are only asked to make a single Venn diagram presumably you can choose any of those to illustrate.
#8
Re: Discrete math symbol question
Posted 04 October 2011 - 08:03 PM
r.stiltskin, on 04 October 2011 - 07:51 PM, said:
Don't say "B and C ≠ empty set", say B intersection C ≠ empty set.
So yes, if the intersection of B and C is NOT the empty set, then it must be that B and C have at least some elements in common. This could mean that B equals C, or that B includes all of C, or that C includes all of B, or that B and C partially overlap.
You are given that B does NOT equal C, but any of the other 3 cases is possible.
You are not given any information about A. A might include all of B and all of C, none of B and all of C, none of B and part of C, none of B and none of C, and various other possibilities ... Since you are only asked to make a single Venn diagram presumably you can choose any of those to illustrate.
So yes, if the intersection of B and C is NOT the empty set, then it must be that B and C have at least some elements in common. This could mean that B equals C, or that B includes all of C, or that C includes all of B, or that B and C partially overlap.
You are given that B does NOT equal C, but any of the other 3 cases is possible.
You are not given any information about A. A might include all of B and all of C, none of B and all of C, none of B and part of C, none of B and none of C, and various other possibilities ... Since you are only asked to make a single Venn diagram presumably you can choose any of those to illustrate.
Ok now I am stumped as to how to make this happen.
NVM LOL its just B and C overlap all inside A.
This post has been edited by Ap0C552: 04 October 2011 - 08:13 PM
#9
Re: Discrete math symbol question
Posted 04 October 2011 - 08:12 PM
It's not so difficult. You just have to play around with different sizes and arrangements of the circles. First choose some arrangement of B and C that satisfies the last two constraints, and then figure out where to put A to satisfy the first two.
#10
Re: Discrete math symbol question
Posted 04 October 2011 - 08:17 PM
Thanks for your help!
It is really appreciated!
It is really appreciated!
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