[KYA]

One day I'm going to get a fedora. I'm not capable of making one.

[DimitriV]

RetardedGenius, on 08 October 2011 - 10:05 PM, said:

jimmyBo, on 06 October 2011 - 01:10 AM, said:

modi123_1, on 06 October 2011 - 10:02 AM, said:

AdamSpeight2008, on 05 October 2011 - 06:59 PM, said:

You couldn't have hoped/paid for better Marketing.

When is the new IPhone released?

From what I am reading the horrible launch for the 4gs may have done him in.

Sad.

Still, you can't be disrespectful. Without apple a lot of the things you take for granted in a computer (the GUI for example) wouldn't exist (not in this form).
And what was wrong with the launch? I watched it through the apple site and it was fine, the new CEO did a great job at announcing.
Steve Jobs was a great man, and will continue to live on in Apple and their products.

Oh, I almost forgot.
RIP Steve! We'll miss you.

I don't know why so many people are attributing the Graphical User Interface to Jobs: History of The Graphical User Interface.

I've never been a fan of apple and I've always thought that their products are overpriced but I cannot deny that Steve Jobs was a very influential person and a true genius when it came to selling his ideas and marketing his products. If you anyone hasn't seen his 2005 Standford Speech, I'd really recommend it.

I wasn't attributing it to him, just thar he helped apple make it more mainstream.
I don't mind if you liked him or not. Its up to you, and I have nothing against it.

[modi123_1]

An interesting newspaper cartoon..



.. and I am glad the meme-world is keeping up on the news.

Spoiler

[Choscura]

WolfCoder, on 08 October 2011 - 02:56 PM, said:

*Citation Needed

Founders at Work (by Jessica Livingston), Steve Wozniak chapter, several paragraphs from the end. I don't have it on me or I'd give you the page number and line.

[WolfCoder]

OK so it's a book written by an unknown B.A. English and you still haven't really told me where all the crazy stuff he did was mentioned, and if the crazy stuff was actually inside of the book, where she got her info from.

So pretty much you're just rattling off book titles.

[Choscura]

No, the chapter is an (apparently verbatim, although I'm not sure if it's actually verbatim) interview with the Woz himself. This isn't some idiot boo-hooing about the bad things that happened to other people, this is the people themselves talking about their decisions, hardships, and the lessons they learned (either from running companies- eg, apple- or from developing something new within an existing company- eg, gmail and adwords).

[Programmist]

Class.

Quote

Samsung said on Monday it had delayed the launch of a new smartphone based on Google's latest version of the Android operating system while the world pays tribute to Apple co-founder Steve Jobs who died last week.

[jon.kiparsky]

Classy and smart, all in one. I'm sure they'd like to get some press for this thing, and the release of the new mePhone plus the death of Jobs would have done a nice one-two punch on that plan.

[Serapth]

Choscura, on 08 October 2011 - 01:12 PM, said:

I'll miss his contributions to technology (clarification: his slick ideas that he himself wasn't actually capable of implementing), but as a person Steve was pretty horrible. Had a kid, denied she was his until she got a DNA test and a court order- started a company (Apple- maybe you've heard of it) with another guy, told the other guy they'd split the profits 50-50 and then lied about the profits so he could have a bigger share... and this is just stuff I know off the top of my head. I could look up the fraud he was apparently involved in (something about misstated stock prices) but it's just pointless now.

To say he was a great visionary is probably accurate- but to say that without him the personal computing scene (and smartphones and everything else) wouldn't have been as good isn't something we can say, because we don't know what would have happened. Maybe things would have been better without him, maybe they would have been worse, but we can't say it would have been one thing or the other because we just don't know. If he hadn't invented the GUI in the way it exists now, maybe something else would have been invented that was better- maybe a database would have been the standard way of storing files for users instead of a filesystem or some goofy switch like that. Maybe joysticks or touch pads would have been vogue, not mice.

Miss him if you really want to, but be honest and admit that the guy was an asshole who did some brilliant things that, hopefully, made up for that to the people that it mattered to.

This. 100% this. I read a few books about Apple and working with Jobs including Revolution in the Valley by Andy Hertzfeld, which I actually believe was intended to portray Jobs in a positive light, but still marks him as a sociopath. You can get a good feel of what a jerk jobs was reading the stories on Folklore.org, all from early day Apple employees.

Pretty simply put, the man was brilliant, but a complete and utter prick.

[supersloth]

so is pretty much everyone when you get down to it.

[xclite]

Well, I'd venture that some are just pricks without any brilliance.

[supersloth]

well, the complete and utter prick part was the only thing i was referring too. thanks for pointing it out, prick.

[dorknexus]

real classy guys. geez.

[xclite]

Prick and proud of it.

[supersloth]

i would be too /overly exaggerated wink that completely describes my intentions