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#1 pioSko   User is offline

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Microsoft DRM

Posted 15 April 2007 - 05:42 PM

God! How I love how the write sometimes!! This is exactly what should be published and transmitted so people know what they're paying for. (Or warn them before they buy)

http://www.theinquir...x?article=38926

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Avoid the Vista badge, it means DRM inside

Comment Don't just blame Dammit, damn it

By Charlie Demerjian: niedziela 15 kwietnia 2007, 11:10
THE RECENT BILE directed at DAMMIT over the framebuffer lockout is entirely misdirected. Or, at least, the reason to blame the firm is wrong. The hardware providers may be guilty as hell here, but not for this - the real evil here is Microsoft with its DRM fetish. The loser? You, once again.

As we have been saying for years now, DRM infections have no positives for the user, there is literally no good that you get from them. Everything they do is negative under each and every scenario. While the content mafiaa gets positively orgasmic over the money they will rake in while you twist, the whole industry tanks.

Back to the issue at hand, there is no hardware provider that I talked to, be it DAAMIT, Intel, Nvidia, or device manufacturer like the drive makers that want, like, or even say good things about the DRM infections. They hate this more than you do.

Why? It cost them a lot of money to license the IP involved in this. Then they have to make the things, which add engineering debugging and testing time. DRM infections lower compatibility, drive up support costs, and in general are no fun.

Once you get the design done, it adds silicon area, lowering yields and adding cost. The finished devices consume more power, you don't think that encryption comes for free do you, lowers performance, and in general, sucks.

On top of this, you have to not only make driver that understand this on top of the normal functionality, but you have to obfuscate, secure, and enforce the DRM infections. Again, this lowers compatibility, breaks functionality, and costs a hell of a lot to do.

It will then be broken in a few hours, and you will have to make a new set of drivers with a different encryption scheme. Who pays for this massive engineering effort in the end? The user, that would be you. What do you get for your added money? Less compatibility, devices that don't work, much less work together, and forced updates that will break your machine if you don't apply them. You are roadkill that is forced to pay for your pain, a wallet with legs.

So, if the hardware people hate this inflicted pain, why do we have it? Two reasons, MS and the hardware vendors themselves abdicating their responsibilities to you the consumer. MS is evil, the rest of them sold you out for their profits. Ironically, they all lost, as did we the users.

The root of this crappy DRM infection is Microsoft. It is the driving force here. This has nothing to do with protecting content, as we keep pointing out, there has never been a single thing that has had a DRM infection applied that didn't end up cracked on the net in hours. DRM is about walled gardens and control.

He who controls the DRM infection controls the market. DRM is about preventing you from doing anything with the devices without paying the gatekeeper a fee. This is what MS wants, nothing less than a slice of everything watched, listened to or discussed from now on. DRM prevents others from playing there, thanks to the DMCA and other anti-consumer laws.

Make no mistake, MS is pushing the DRM malware as hard as it can so it can rake in money hand over fist with no competition. It is really good at lock-in, in fact, the firm based its entire business model on harming the user so they have to comply and spend more.

Want more proof? If you look at the Windows MeII (aka Vista) logo requirements, specifically the graphics portion or the list (Spreadsheet section I, lines 452 and on), you will see that they list something very curious. The first thing they list is that the graphics is DRM infected, this is mandatory. The next requirement is that it meets the functionality standards, like 453. So, MS is saying in no uncertain terms that DRM infections are more important than the device actually working.

What a wonderful world we live in, in the real rational world, roadkill does not have to pay for the privilege or agree to a crushing Windows EULA before they get their brains splattered on the grill of a coked out record company exec's Porsche logo.

So, if Microsoft is the root of all this evil, why blame the hardware folks? Because they are all spineless cowards. Intel sold you out. ATI sold you out. Nvidia sold you out. AMD sold you out. Every other hardware vendor that has a Windows Vista malware sticker on their machines sold you out. This is a badge of compliance, just that you are being forced to, not that the stuff will work with Vista.

These corporate worms all stood in line and assured their own pain, and then heaped that pain and cost on you. None of them had the balls to stand up and do anything about it, they are dumb sheep, and MS knows this. They use logo compliance as a weapon, and everyone falls into line.

What is the result? Media centers suck, all of them. They are unwieldy, unworkable, unfriendly, anti-consumer piles of garbage that sit on store shelves rotting. People don't buy media center PCs because they want a DRM infection that turns their $5K flat panel into a black screen, or if they are really lucky, a downrezzed blur, they buy them in spite of it. This is usually done out of ignorance, something that seems to be prevalent in abundance among the masses. All the companies prey on this.

So, you have an evil mastermind herding spineless sheep. You suffer and pay more. Media center PCs are a dead category because of DRM infections, a promising new tech squashed in the name of greed and control. Lets chrome one and put it beside a mini-disc player with a DAT as a backdrop. Garnish with Audio DVDs, Blu-Rays and HD-DVDs as needed.

What good did DRM do here? All the things that DRM infections have tried to protect are still cracked, AACS patches are cracked before the new discs have started to be pressed, and the game goes on. The content mafiaa and MS have lost every single skirmish in the war.

Another promising tech squashed. Another set of world domination dreams fizzled. Another generation of consumers blindsided because they don't pay attention. Another set of miserable and broken hardware foisted on us.

When you aim the guns at DAAMIT, make sure you aim the guns at the right target for the right reasons. So far, very few have, there is more than enough DRM related greed and evil to go around. Have at thee, but have at thee correctly.

And they wonder why we don't care about the crap they make any more and sales are in the toilet. That is the real puzzler. µ


btw: wrong forum on purpose

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#2 eLliDKraM   User is offline

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Re: Microsoft DRM

Posted 15 April 2007 - 05:54 PM

i'll vote, over my head.
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Posted 15 April 2007 - 06:08 PM

The DRM issues with Vista are usually beyond the find ability of your average user, sadly.

http://imbetterthanyou.ca/blog/?p=3
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Posted 16 April 2007 - 01:33 AM

I like Charlie's DRM bashings... He had some very good columns in the past one 1-2 years.
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Re: Microsoft DRM

Posted 16 April 2007 - 02:41 AM

That was a good article; thank you for sharing it.
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Re: Microsoft DRM

Posted 16 April 2007 - 07:12 AM

i gizoogled it, like i do to everything i don't understand, and as expected, it makes a little more sense

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Comment Don't just blame Dammit, dizzamn it

By Charlie Demerjian: niedziela 15 kwietnia 2007, 11:10
THE RECENT BILE directed at DAMMIT over tha cracka lockout is entirely misdirected. Or, at least, tha reason ta blame tha fizzle is wrong. The hardware playa may be guilty as hiznell here, but not fo` this - tha rizzy evil here is Microsoft wit its DRM fetish . Nigga get shut up or get wet up. The drug deala? You, once again cuz its a doggy dog world.

As we have been say'n fo` years now, DRM infections have no positizzles fo` tha usa, there is literally no good tizzle you git fizzy them dogg. Everyth'n they do is negative unda each n every scenario . One, two three and to tha four. While tha content mafiaa gets positively orgasmic over tha money they wiznill rakes in while you twist, tha whole industry tanks fo gettin yo pimp on.

Bizzy ta tha issue at H-to-tha-izzand, there is no hardware provida that I rapped to, be it DAAMIT, Intel, Nvidia, or device baller like tha drive maka T-H-to-tha-izzat want, like, or even say good th'n `bout tha DRM infections fo' sheezy. They hate this more thizzay you do puttin tha smack down.

Why? It ciznost thizzay a lot of money ta license tha IP involved in this . Relax, cus I'm bout to take my respect. Tizzle they hizzle ta makes tha pimpin' whizzich add engineer'n messin' n test'n time. DRM infections brotha compatibilizzles drive up support costs, n in general is no fun.

Once you git tha design done, it adds silicon area, lower'n yields n add'n ciznost . One, two three and to tha four. The finished devices consume more powa, you don't T-H-to-tha-izzink tizzle encryption comes fo` free do you, baller performizzles n in general, sucks.

On top of this, you have ta not only makes cracka tizzle understand this on top of tha normal functionizzles but you have ta obfuscate, secure, n enforce tha DRM infections n' shit. Again, this playa compatibilizzles breaks functionizzles n costs a hell of a lot ta do.

It wizzay then be broken in a few hours, n you will hizzle ta makes a new set of brotha wit a different encryption scheme. Who pays fo` this massive engineer'n effort in tha end? The usa, tizzy would be you fo all my homies in the pen. Whiznat do you git fo` yo added money? Less compatibilizzles devices that don't wizzork, much less wizzy brotha n forced updates that wizzy break yo machine if you don't apply thiznem. You is roadkill that is forced ta pay fo` yo pain, a wallet wit legs.

So, if tha hardware thugz hate this inflicted pain, why do we have it? Two reasons, MS n tha hardware vendors themselves dippin' they responsibilizzles ta you tha baller . Put ya mutha fuckin choppers up if ya feel this.. MS is evil, tha rizzay of them sold you out fo` they profits. Ironically, they all lost, as did we tha brotha.

The rizzy of this crappy DRM infection is Microsoft. It is tha rollin` force here . Put ya mutha fuckin choppers up if ya feel this.. This has nuttin' ta do wit protect'n content, as we keep point'n out, there has neva bizzy a single thing tizzle has had a DRM infection applied thiznat didn't end up cracked on tha net in hours . Im a bad boy wit a lotta hos. DRM is `bout walled gardens n control . Snoop dogg is in this bitch.

He who controls tha DRM infection controls tha market bitch ass nigga. DRM is `bout prevent'n you from doing blunt-rollin' wit tha devices witout pay'n tha bitch a fee. This is whizzay MS wants, nuttin' less than a slice of mackin' watched, listened ta or discussed F-R-to-tha-izzom now on. DRM prevents otha F-R-to-tha-izzom play'n there, thanks ta tha Dizzle n otha playa laws . Im crazy, you can't phase me.

Makes no mistake, MS is push'n tha DRM malware as hard as it can so it can rakes in money hand over fizzy wit no competizzles. It is really good at lock-in, in F-to-tha-izzact, tha fizzay based its entire business model on ballin' tha user so they have ta comply n spend more droppin hits.

Wizzy more proof? If you look at tha Windows MeII (aka Vista) logo requirizzles specifically tha graphics portion or tha list (Spreadsheet section I, lines 452 n on), you wizzill see tizzy they list sum-m sum-m very curious. The first thing they list is T-H-to-tha-izzat tha graphics is DRM infected, this is mandatory so you betta run and grab yo glock. The next requirizzles is that it meets tha functionality standards, like 453. So, MS is clockin' in no uncertain terms tizzle DRM infections is more important than tha device actually work'n� . I thought i told ya, nigga I'm a soldier.

Whizzat a wonderful world we live in, in tha real rational world, roadkill does not have ta pay fo` tha privilege or agree ta a ballin' Windows EULA before they git they brains splattered on tha grill of a coked out record company exec's Porsche logo and my money on my mind.

So, if Microsoft is tha rizzle of all this evil, why blame tha hardware folks? Coz tizzle is all spineless cowards . Tru niggaz do niggaz. Intel sold you out . Tru niggaz do niggaz. ATI sold you out. Nvidia sold you out. AMD sold you out fo' sheezy. Every poser hardware vendor thiznat has a Windows Vista malware playa on they machines sold you out . Im crazy, you can't phase me. This is a badge of compliance, just tizzle you is being forced to, not thizzat tha shiznit wiznill work wit Vista . Yippie yo, you can't see my flow.

These corporate worms all stood in line n assured they own pain, n then heaped tizzy pizzle n cost on you puttin tha smack down. Nizzle of tizzle had tha balls ta stand up n do anyth'n `bout it, they is D-to-tha-izzumb sheep, n MS knows this in tha hood. They use logo compliance as a weapon, n everyone falls into line n shit.

Wizzle is tha result? Media brotha sizzay all of tizzy. They is unwieldy, unworkable, unfriendly, gangsta piles of garbage that sit on store shelves rott'n� crazy up in here. People Don't buy media rappa PCs coz they wizzay a DRM infection that turns they $5K fizzle panel into a B-L-to-tha-izzack screen, or if they is really lucky, a downrezzed bliznur, they buy tizzle in spite of it. This is usually done out of ignorance, sum-m sum-m tizzle seems ta be prevalent in abundance among tha masses. All tha companies prey on this yeah yeah baby.

So, you hizzle an evil mastermind herd'n spineless sheep. You gangsta n pay more . Aint no stoppin' this shit nigga. Media hustla PCs is a dead category coz of DRM infections, a ridin' new tizzech squashed in tha nizzle of greed n control. Lets chrome one n put it beside a mini-disc brotha wit a DAT as a backdrop . Subscribe nigga, get yo issue.. Garnish wit Audio DVDs, Blu-Rays n HD-DVDs as needed like a motha fucka.

What good did DRM do here? All tha doggy stylin' thiznat DRM infections have tried ta protect is stizzay cracked, AACS patches is cracked before tha new discs have started ta be pressed, n tha game goes on fo gettin yo pimp on. The content mafiaa n MS have lost every single skirmish in tha war . Tru niggaz do niggaz.

Cracka doggy stylin' tizzy squashed. Pusha set of world dominizzle dreams fizzled. Pusha generizzles of gangsta blindsided coz they don't pay attention . Wussup to all my niggaz in the house. Anotha set of miserable n broken hardware foisted on us . Snoop dogg is in this bitch.

When you aim tha gats at DAAMIT, makes sure you aim tha gats at tha riznight target fo` tha rizzight reasons now pass the glock Anotha dogg house production.. So far, very few have, there is more thiznan enough DRM related greed n evil ta go around. Hizzy at thee, but hizzle at thee correctly.

And they killa why we don't care `bout tha crap they makes any more n sales is in tha toilet. That is tha real puzzla�. �

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Posted 16 April 2007 - 07:25 AM

Ohhhhhhhh, I get it now.
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Posted 16 April 2007 - 09:56 AM

Sorry for being thick, but what is DRM?
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Posted 16 April 2007 - 10:08 AM

Digital Rights Management. It's restrictions placed on content by companies to limit the who\where\when\why content is being used. For example, one of the most well known DRM's is FairPlay, the software that only lets music downloaded from the iTunes Music Store work on iPod's.
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Posted 16 April 2007 - 10:35 AM

The electronic frontier foundation have some interesting stuff about this.

http://www.eff.org/IP/fairuse/
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Posted 16 April 2007 - 10:41 AM

Although you have to take the EFF with a grain of salt...I'm about the most paranoid person on the planet, and those guys make ME look like a trusting individual. I wear a tinfoil hat - those guys live in tinfoil houses! :)
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Posted 16 April 2007 - 11:22 AM

View PostAmadeus, on 16 Apr, 2007 - 06:41 PM, said:

Although you have to take the EFF with a grain of salt...I'm about the most paranoid person on the planet, and those guys make ME look like a trusting individual. I wear a tinfoil hat - those guys live in tinfoil houses! :)


Yeah, I like a good conspiracy theory, even if I don't buy into it. I'm reading Mark Thomas' "As used on the famous Nelson Mandela" (about the arms trade) at the moment http://www.amazon.co...n...7731&sr=8-2

And I'm just about to watch "This Film is Not Yet Rated" about movie censorship in the US

http://www.amazon.co...-...9857&sr=8-1 :P

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