[Craig328]

supersloth, on 07 May 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

nerds always hate that other people like things that they dislike.

So, nerds are like the anti-hipsters?

This post has been edited by Craig328: 07 May 2012 - 01:48 PM

[lordofduct]

supersloth, on 07 May 2012 - 03:39 PM, said:

comic books NEVER make that assumption. you are talking about some stupid fucking assholes that are not inanimate objects that happen to read those inanimate objects. your problem is not comic books, your problem is people. you're just projecting.

that said your answer really does show that you are quite the fucking nerd. nerds always hate that other people like things that they dislike.

I may be projecting the word hate onto the comic-book in a literary sense, I do psychologically understand who it is that bothers me. I merely use the word 'comic-books' and 'star-wars' to refer to the culture behind them as a whole (not just the individuals, I've met individuals who don't necessarily reflect the common culture of comic-book fandom).

And yes, your latter proof is correct as well. I have no need to contest my nerdness. I declared my nerdness. Difference is I do not suppose that others must dislike the same things I dislike. Only that their love is not universal... I am angry at that lack of understanding.



Anyways, I said what I had to about this nerd topic...

This post has been edited by lordofduct: 07 May 2012 - 01:54 PM

[supersloth]

yeah but my point is that you are basically doing the same thing. you're being unfair to those who read comic books who are normal people and understand it's not for everyone.

(also, i think the point sabre was trying to make was not that someone has issues for not reading the hulk comics, but that not even KNOWING who the character is is extremely strange after decades of comics, multiple huge movies, a tv show, countless tie-ins etc etc. it just shows the mark of a very disconnected person)

[lordofduct]

1) I understood that sabre was light-hearted in his statement. I said that. But I only recently learned of it, so it's not that strange (as with every other member of the Avengers movie, except for Iron-Man). His statements do not insight any anger in me whatsoever.

2) I do not have unfair prejudice of any comic-book fans just because they like comic-books. You yourself obviously like 'Superman', I have zero prejudice for you, I have not directed any annoyance or anger at you.

3) I have long been annoyed, as I described, by the culture of comic-book fandom that excercises this idea that love for their topic is universal. And they have angrily, in large numbers, through out every corner of this country (i've traveled a lot). No, not all, not even majority, only common. I do not do this in return. The only reason my dislike of comics even came up was because it was 'on-topic'... and even then I did not attack any comic-book fans. I only noted annoyance with those fans in my past who are not present and remain anonymous.

4) hate is also commonly used in modern day in am ore light-hearted form. It's not like I'm sitting here seathing in anger, I'm just sitting here listening to music whiling away the last hours of work, with my workload mostly relieved.

[supersloth]

actually i think superman is pretty wack. i use the symbol because of sloth from the goonies.

[lordofduct]

::shakes head::

[baavgai]

Any group will get bent if they feel you're one of the "them" but aren't buying into all the stuff "they" are. If you aren't one of them, then you're an outsider and your disinterest proves their superiority. Yes, people are strange.

As a nerd, with a number of friends who could be extras from The Big Bang Theory, I'm expected to be into certain things. Granted, from Monty Python to Manga I'm right there. But, if I'm is being honest, there's some stuff that just doesn't work for me.

e.g. the Avengers movie has a built in fandom; Joss Whedon. He seems like a nice enough nerd, but some of his stuff ain't all that. Much media that certain nerds swoon over leaves me cold. I mean, I'm glad it works for someone, but don't get miffed if I don't like it.

[NeoTifa]

I, for one, just flat out do not like Star Trek. There. I've said it.

[dorknexus]

[calvinthedestroyer]

NeoTifa, on 06 May 2012 - 08:57 AM, said:

I was a cheerleader. :x

PIC's oh wait some one beat me to it.

NeoTifa, on 06 May 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:

I quit to do marching band full time lol.

I feel like I should explain that I wasn't varsity or anything. I was JV. Middle school mostly, but I could've continued. Doing marching band and cheerleading at the same time was hectic, so I quit. Plus the other girls were bitches.

I couldn't find a pic of me wearing it, but I dug the uniform out of the closet.
uniform.jpg

Do you still fit in your cheer leading outfit?


I joined the nerds when I took electronics in high school, although simple nerds we were not.
*one got expelled for selling an illegal firearm (ground off serial numbers)
*two came to school drunk.
*five of them had to publicly apologize to the whole school for making a fake hit list with most of the school on it.
*and I got out of school suspension for telling a kid at the bus stop, how to make blow darts.


Oh and we didn't have cheer leaders at our school since it was a Technical school, So put on the cute outfit and show us some leg

[fromTheSprawl]

lordofduct, on 07 May 2012 - 09:10 PM, said:

I have long been annoyed, as I described, by the culture of comic-book fandom that excercises this idea that love for their topic is universal.

I haven't met people like that yet, but one thing I know is you can't make everyone universally love something, and I agree with you that comic book is not universally loved. People in my country love manga but comic books are a niche here. Though people tend to label comic book readers here as nerds.

baavgai, on 07 May 2012 - 09:55 PM, said:

the Avengers movie has a built in fandom; Joss Whedon.

Joss Whedon is good. My mom finished the first season of Firefly without me watching it. Serenity is a great film. Gonna watch Cabin In The Woods.

By the way, I for one has just started reading comic books. I've read "The Walking Dead" up to issue 94 and have finished the "Preacher" comic along with all its special issues.

[jon.kiparsky]

Joss Whedon is good, but for me it seems an empty sort of good. He has technique, and he can do a very good impression of sincerity, but I always get the sense that everything that should be honest in his writing is just there for effect. He's like Stephen Moffat in that regard - a very good simulacrum of honesty, but not a patch on the real thing.

And, really, it's not that I mind that he's faking it. I've spent enough time on stages to know that you're always faking it a little but. That bit when we go off stage and then come back out and play one more? We know that's going to happen. That clever off-the-cuff line that the singer uses to introduce the song? He practiced that. If's all a little bit fake. Levee never really kills Toledo, that's just a pretend knife, they're going out for a beer after they get their makeup cleaned off. We all know that, but if they do it right, we buy it for long enough to believe that it was really our true love for the band that got them to come back out and do one more song, or that the singer's line was just something he thought of, or, heaven help us, that a man really just died there on the stage. Just for a moment, we see the naked truth of life, artfully arranged and presented for our delectation.

What I mind about Whedon is that he always lets me know that he's faking it. There's always that unnecessary glint of irony, that winking aside to let me knpw that he's really in on the joke. Fuck that. Fuck irony, it's a crap trick. Gimme some truth, even if it's just lying to me straight instead of crooked.

To really understand what I'm talking about, listen to Townes van Zandt sing a song called "Rake", or another one called "Highway Kind". If you've got the balls for it, stop and listen to him sing "Marie" or "Tecumseh Valley". Be aware, this might sting a little: van Zandt is not in on the joke, because there isn't a joke. Every word he says is true, even though he made most of it up. (except the lonely and the scared, I think that was pretty real in him)

So I can like Joss Whedon's writing, but he'll never make me cry. And as the absolute king of insincerity has told us, "If you don't cry, it isn't love". I don't love Joss Whedon. Frankly, he bores me more than a little. This is a shame, because he has the talent to do great things, if only he would let himself do them - if only he wasn't afraid to do them. Imagine Joss Whedon's tongue in an honest mouth - the world would shake.

[BenignDesign]

<3 Star Wars
<3 Star Trek
<3 Superhero comics
<3 Monty Python

[AlbuquerqueApache]

NeoTifa, on 07 May 2012 - 05:03 PM, said:

I, for one, just flat out do not like Star Trek. There. I've said it.

Oh I so voted you down for that!!!!!!!

Star Trek, is the reason for:

the AIR FORCE
NASA
SATELLITES
ROCKETS
ATOM BOMBS (hey, it can't be all good all the time)

well.... you get the idea

(and yes this is a joke)

BUT!!!!

[b][size="7"]TO BOLDLY GO.....[/size][/b]

[BenignDesign]

Seriously? You just downvoted someone for not liking Star Trek?