[supersloth]

yeah well human history up until about 40 years ago wasn't about 'chasing your dream' it was about 'surviving the coal mines', but no one who spends their days on internet forums is in that situation so i hope they spend a couple hours exercising and taking their dog to the park and learning how to cook a nice meal for their girlfriend. [edit: and reading non programming books and talking to people about non programming things]

This post has been edited by supersloth: 27 August 2013 - 10:40 AM

[lordofduct]

There wasn't some magic thing that happened 40 years ago that changed "the meaning to life". It has been, and for a good time to come, will remain to be "what YOU make of it".

And note, the "chasing your dreams" thing is a lot older than 40 years. My grandfather came to this country to "chase his dreams".


You've defined life. You've defined it as exercising, taking your dog to the park, and cooking for your girlfriend. Sounds like things YOU like to do to me. I'd hate to take my dog to the park, and I don't have or desire to have a girlfriend.

Have your own life and stop telling others their's don't add up to yours in "balance".

This post has been edited by lordofduct: 27 August 2013 - 10:45 AM

[supersloth]

well, modern medicine and technology and economics and legislation and all kinds of stuff happened that changed our daily expectations.

anyway, just saying, put the pickaxe (keyboard) down and do something else once in a while. DOESN'T SEEM THAT CONTROVERSIAL HONESTLY.

(also, work-life balance has never struck me as something you have a problem with, so taking the other side of it seems so... off)

[jon.kiparsky]

Speaking of work/life balance, you guys are working away at this like Trojans. Isn't it about time to take a break and go do something more interesting?

[supersloth]

i'm headed out to see a mass gay wedding in 15 minutes.

[lordofduct]

supersloth, on 27 August 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

well, modern medicine and technology and economics and legislation and all kinds of stuff happened that changed our daily expectations.

anyway, just saying, put the pickaxe (keyboard) down and do something else once in a while. DOESN'T SEEM THAT CONTROVERSIAL HONESTLY.

(also, work-life balance has never struck me as something you have a problem with, so taking the other side of it seems so... off)

I'm taking the other side of it because you're presupposing about these people who say such things.

You're defining for them what life is, then assuming they don't do such things, and thusly don't have work/life balance. Whatever the hell that is.

As I stated, what is to balance if your work is your life. Who are you to say one can't enjoy a life of work? Why do I need to walk a fucking dog?


[edit] - and sorry I edited my previous post before you posted that but I din't know you posted it.

This post has been edited by lordofduct: 27 August 2013 - 10:49 AM

[supersloth]

well, they come in and state that they don't have a balance. it's a pretty regular occurrence. i take them at their word.

also the dog was just an example. go get google tattoo'd on your butt if that's more your style. i don't give a fuck.

[lordofduct]

Also you're presuming I have some balance. How is it you know that?

My life is mostly work, and I like it that way. The only thing outside of work I really do is get drunk and sleep with random women (and sometimes men). It's hardly what I'd call the bright side of my life, it's the dark side that I should be squashing from my life. And my plan to do so involves starting a business... which is work.

This post has been edited by lordofduct: 27 August 2013 - 10:53 AM

[supersloth]

that sucks then dude.

[lordofduct]

No it doesn't. That's my point. I enjoy my work.

My balance is that I do as work what it is I like. My work is my life, and I like that. And I'm positioning myself to increase what I like in my life.

[Slice]

lordofduct, on 27 August 2013 - 06:49 PM, said:

I'm taking the other side of it because you're presupposing about these people who say such things.

You're defining for them what life is, then assuming they don't do such things, and thusly don't have work/life balance. Whatever the hell that is.

I think this has mutated into a whole different debate. No one was trying to tell others how to live their life, as that was in fact the characteristic they were discussing.

The original point was aimed at people who state you're living your life wrong because you DON'T code 24 hours a day. People who do that, and enjoy doing that, are awesome and great for being so passionate. People who do it and try to put other people down for not doing it, are annoying, elitist and egotistical.

As b9 said, live and let live.

This post has been edited by Slice: 27 August 2013 - 11:01 AM

[lordofduct]

Take for instance all the stories I've told on this forum. Of lot lizards, and drug deals gone bad. Old ladies propositioning sex from me, and fights with cops. Corn man and porn sites.

They all were related to the jobs I've had in my life. My work has brought me to all sorts of new and interesting places. My work... it's what I live for, because it gives me my life.

Including that google it tattoo!

Slice, on 27 August 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

lordofduct, on 27 August 2013 - 06:49 PM, said:

I'm taking the other side of it because you're presupposing about these people who say such things.

You're defining for them what life is, then assuming they don't do such things, and thusly don't have work/life balance. Whatever the hell that is.

I think this has mutated into a whole different debate. No one was trying to tell others how to live their life, as that was in fact the characteristic they were discussing.

The original point was aimed at people who state you're living your life wrong because you DON'T code 24 hours a day. People who do that, and enjoy doing that, are awesome and great for being so passionate. People who do it and try to put other people down for not doing it, are annoying, elitist and egotistical.

As b9 said, live and let live.

Anyone who says if you don't code 24 hours is also an arrogant cunt.

But I'm talking about how there was a roll on how people who are "my life is coding" are sad or pathetic because they're life is their work and lack a balance between life and work.

Anyways, I've said my controversial malarky on here.

[supersloth]

i'm happy for, that's fine. it's not like these things are true in all cases no matter what. just saying most people who 'live to code' should go to a ball game (or some other activity of choice with people they love it's just an example) once in a while.

[lordofduct]

why?

[BenignDesign]

lordofduct, on 27 August 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

But I'm talking about how there was a roll on how people who are "my life is coding" are sad or pathetic because they're life is their work and lack a balance between life and work.

I didn't call anyone sad or pathetic (did I?). I said I feel sorry for them... because I can't imagine - nor do I WANT to imagine - living my life that way.

It seems in the great debate over controversial opinions, encouraging a work-life balance is more controversial than living, breathing, sleeping, and jerking off to code. A surprising turn, I think.