[m2s87]

Full news can be found on the internet someplace.
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iPhone is getting better - omfg

[PsychoCoder]

I cant believe you would post something about hacking someone else's product in DIC. Maybe you need to re-read the rules of this forum before posting again?

Forum Rules

[Nova Dragoon]

Maybe you should too, unless I am deftly blind I see no mention about this material in the rules.

moving to software.



If you bought the hardware, its your device now, you should be able to do what you want with it.

[PsychoCoder]

Nova Dragoon, on 13 Sep, 2007 - 07:40 AM, said:

Maybe you should too, unless I am deftly blind I see no mention about this material in the rules.

moving to software.

So posting threads about hacking products is acceptable here at DIC????

[1lacca]

No warez or piracy, but fair use is OK.

[snoj]

If they are your items yes. It's hacking other people properties that we draw the line.

[PsychoCoder]

Well I personally have a serious problem with allowing links to show how to hack proprietary technologies. Its funny the both of you "chastised" a member for asking questions about performing a SQL Injection, but showing someone how to circumvent installed security and technology is ok with you? So I guess "certain" types of hacking are accepted by the 2 of you?

Can you explain the logic behind this to me please, as its really eluding me.

[no2pencil]

If I pay $700+ for an Iphone & eff it up because of a document on here, that's my fault. If I pay $700 for a server running SQL & someone else effs it up because of a document they read on here about SQL injection, that is DIC's problem. I relate with the rules.

[snoj]

If the SQL injection user wanted to know how SQL injection worked so he would properly code an application to prevent it, we would help him. However with the way he phrased it left it very open to the possibility that he was going to use it to gain unauthorized access to a system.

With this Apple iPhone business, you are hacking a product you already own. Granted there may be implications to doing this with either Apple or AT&T, however these things are between the individual and them.

In other words, this is all about ownership of properties.

[PsychoCoder]

Well in the Forum Rules it states that users aren't allowed to circumvent the securities and technologies of this site to get around certain aspects, such as a banned account. But its ok, in your eyes, to allow someone to post links to how how to do this to someone else's product. You may own the phone, but you do not own the technologies used to prevent use for an item that it wasn't intended for. Next you're going to say its ok to post links on how to crack software, say make it a premium version rather than a basic version, just because you own the basic version.

I used to think the Team and Moderators of DIC were people with high moral and ethical standards, and maybe most are, but I really expected more than this from you you two. This is really disappointing to me.

[Thorian]

I can understand the controversy however he just linked to a magazine article.
Now it wouldn't fly if he wanted to publish a tutorial with an attached application.

[tody4me]

My first thought was the same as yours Psycho... but i re-read the rules myself (cause it's actually been years since i did so the first time) and it is a legitimate post. I would think in the least that it would be seriously frowned upon to do so though.

[PsychoCoder]

Thorian, on 13 Sep, 2007 - 08:08 AM, said:

I can understand the controversy however he just linked to a magazine article.
Now it wouldn't fly if he wanted to publish a tutorial with an attached application.

What the hells the difference between showing where they can go to get the information and providing the information? So its ok to point people to the resources to hack someones proprietary technologies, but don't you dare provide the information yourself? What kind of logic is that??

[Thorian]

After reviewing the License agreement for the iPhone If you want an unlocked iPhone get one of the Chinese copies that are out there. by buying the phone you are agreeing to their terms of service if you don't like it don't buy it.

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