[XxArcanexX]

cyborghost, on 25 July 2014 - 09:45 AM, said:

Parental control is the dumbest thing around. As everyone has said, they will find a way around it, I always did. There was nothing my parents could do to stop me from doing anything I wanted. All it creates is a challenge to overcome (which if you want your kid to think quick on their feet then be my guest and challenge them). I remember when my mom tried to do that and it just pissed me off. It's not her business what I look at. I wasn't talking to strangers about me going to their house, I was looking at sex. You know the thing we are all pre programmed to do, one of the most basic instinct. I was in no way putting myself in dangers way.

Here's a thought: Would you rather your kid look at porn and masturbate or go have sex? One or the other will happen and yes sometimes both will happen but I can assure you that one will.

Any way I agree with the first reply, the best method is to have open communication and trust with your child so you both don't need to hide things.

depricated, on 23 July 2014 - 04:22 PM, said:

supersloth, on 23 July 2014 - 04:41 PM, said:

that's why my kids always use our heroin den and never a strangers heroin den.

Faulty comparison is faulty.

But it's unsurprising you think of porn as comparable to heroin.

All he is saying is he'd rather them do things under his/her care so they know their kids is being safe about it rather then some where else where the adult doesn't care therefore the child is in dangers way. There is no actual comparison between porn and heroin.

Technically, it is their business to see what you do since you know, raised you, and gave birth to you. Why not watch porn and not masturbate so you don't have an urge for sex in general since you are not practicing those "muscles", self discipline is needed. From a religious stand point you are pretty retarded with some of the people on this thread, but that is my opinion since I am looking at this from a religious perspective.


Anyway, for keeping an eye on your children my dad used to keep logs of what I used to look up. If your son/daughter does anything you don't like you can talk to him/her. If you do this they will understand that it is wrong and hopefully get them to stop and understand why it is wrong. My dad used to block things like that but I got past it like a normal kid would do, but once he sat down with me and started explaining it was wrong I stopped doing it, I was embarrassed because of that so that's why I basically stopped.

[macosxnerd101]

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From a religious stand point you are pretty retarded with some of the people on this thread, but that is my opinion since I am looking at this from a religious perspective.

This clearly isn't trolling.

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If your son/daughter does anything you don't like you can talk to him/her. If you do this they will understand that it is wrong and hopefully get them to stop and understand why it is wrong.

Parents who explain to their kids that homosexuality is "wrong" get them to be straight in that manner. Clearly, you don't understand how people work.

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Why not watch porn and not masturbate so you don't have an urge for sex in general since you are not practicing those "muscles", self discipline is needed.

This made me chuckle.

[XxArcanexX]

macosxnerd101, on 26 July 2014 - 11:00 PM, said:

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From a religious stand point you are pretty retarded with some of the people on this thread, but that is my opinion since I am looking at this from a religious perspective.

This clearly isn't trolling.

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If your son/daughter does anything you don't like you can talk to him/her. If you do this they will understand that it is wrong and hopefully get them to stop and understand why it is wrong.

Parents who explain to their kids that homosexuality is "wrong" get them to be straight in that manner. Clearly, you don't understand how people work.

Sorry if you thought it was trolling I tried to keep it as far away as I could with still telling my views.

That is up to the parents if you want them to think that or not, if they want they can choose their perspective on things if they want, they aren't forced to do it they just do it because they know it and are familiar with it(so easier). Once you move out of the house you could look at things anyway you want, At least that is what people think if they were logical which people lack now a days. I may not understand people in your specific way but if everyone looked at something a specific way there wouldn't be any problems, everyone is different.

[Ntwiles]

Most people have talked about porn in respect to this subject. I don't have children, but when I do I'm not going to coddle them with respect to that. I grew up with free access to porn and I'm that that fucked in the head.

Where I would be concerned is the safety and legality of my child's actions. You can get yourself into some serious trouble in the internet, and kids are curious. In my opinion, the correct solution to this has nothing to do with content filtering, and has everything to do with proper parenting.

"Hey, hypothetical nonexistent gender-non-specific child, do what you're going to do. But just so you know, doing [Action A] is going to get you a virus. Doing [Action B] is illegal and will get you into some serious trouble. Doing [Action C] will get you kidnapped by some dude in a van. The internet is not something to be taken lightly. If you're going to use it, you're going to be held responsible for your own actions."

This post has been edited by Ntwiles: 26 July 2014 - 11:22 PM

[macosxnerd101]

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Sorry if you thought it was trolling I tried to keep it as far away as I could with still telling my views.

My point was that it's pretty hypocritical to claim to be religious and call people retarded.

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That is up to the parents if you want them to think that or not, if they want they can choose their perspective on things if they want, they aren't forced to do it they just do it because they know it and are familiar with it(so easier).

This makes no sense.

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Once you move out of the house you could look at things anyway you want

Why does this have to start when one moves out of the house?

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I may not understand people in your specific way but if everyone looked at something a specific way there wouldn't be any problems, everyone is different.

Suppose everyone values oil and wants more of it (hence, having the same perspective). There is only a finite amount of oil in the world. Competition will clearly exist, and hence problems. So your statement again, is false.

[XxArcanexX]

Well, believe what you want, I'm not going to try and change anything in your life or mind sets. I was just giving my 2 cents to this thread. Everyone could have the same end goal, but its the way you approach it.

Ntwiles is right. There is consequences to the internet and its no place for a kid to use fully without being monitored.

This post has been edited by macosxnerd101: 26 July 2014 - 11:26 PM
Reason for edit:: You don't need to quote large posts, especially when they are right above you

[macosxnerd101]

The point I was making is that people will always be people. Explaining "it's bad if you touch yourself there" or "it's okay if you watch this arousing video, but you can't touch yourself" seems really misguided. Let's explain to a horny teenage boy that masturbation is wrong and he shouldn't do it. And parents sitting down and explaining things doesn't always work. The teenage years are really when folks start watching porn. Let's be honest- how many teenagers are going to really listen to their parents when they start telling them "porn is wrong." The sex talk is awkward enough with one's parents, let alone going into the "porn and indulgences" talk.

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I was just giving my 2 cents to this thread.

Your two cents don't really make any sense when breaking them down. You're welcome to share yours on any thread, but just expect that folks might put them under some scrutiny.

[depricated]

Ntwiles, on 27 July 2014 - 12:10 AM, said:

"Hey, hypothetical nonexistent gender-non-specific child, do what you're going to do. But just so you know, doing [Action A] is going to get you a virus. Doing [Action B] is illegal and will get you into some serious trouble. Doing [Action C] will get you kidnapped by some dude in a van. The internet is not something to be taken lightly. If you're going to use it, you're going to be held responsible for your own actions."

This is more to the point.

Limiting a child's access to the computer, or even just the internet, is destructive. It can have a number of effects, some insidious and some just unfortunate, but I can't think of any good. Feel free to toss out what good you think might come of it.

It's a central structure in modern society. It's an integral part of life. As the years progress I see it only becoming moreso. You'll carry around your entire identity on a card in your pocket some day - a modernized drivers license perhaps. Who knows. Teaching them to stay away from the internet because it's full of danger is like teaching them to stay away from books because they're full of danger.

Teach them critical thinking skills instead of neutering their minds. Teach them to recognize a phishing attempt. Teach them about social engineering - teach them TO social engineer. When they object to something, argue with them but don't use the 'because I said' cop out. Make them defend their point and then illustrate why they're wrong - but without gloating. Teach them that it's OK to be wrong, that it's more important to be correct than to be right.

Don't wait til they're 18, or 20, and then just walk away abandoning them in the jungle of the internet, unprepared to deal with the predators who will come at them. Teach them to survive, and thrive, on it. It's not really an option any more - nothing will guarantee a menial job after graduation more than having a stunted knowledge of computers.

Not to mention, if the interest is never given the chance to spark, that's an entire avenue of possibilities for the child's future that's shut down.

[jackal1782]

try sky dog its a wifi router


it not only lets you block specific websites and categorized websites it lets you set hours for the internet like its only on from 4 till 5 or something

and the best part is you can set specific hours to different devises
for example
kid A hours could be set to
2-9
wile yours could be on all the time

[modi123_1]

Been on the receiving end of that one?

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While Skydog routers are no longer available for purchase,

http://skydog.com/

[supersloth]

16 year olds on internet forums love dispensing parenting advice.

[LewiJ]

I have to admit that the education takes the first place in this kind of issues. Trust to the kid is also very important, however the control is needed, especially when the kid is very young. I am using the PCWebControl at my home PC that stays in the living room so everybody can see what's on the screen.
There you got more information about this soft:
pcwebcontrol

[trevster344]

Well this thread has made me appreciate my parents loads more but at the same time I feel like I missed out by not being given the awkward "Sex" and "Porn" talks lol.

[modi123_1]

What's your skype handle? I am certain we can start a group call and make it fairly close to that awkward level.

[depricated]

I'll show you mine if you show me yours