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My PR3 site took a nose dive right to PR0, any change it the rules?

Post icon  Posted 17 October 2007 - 11:04 AM

Ok, for our decided search strings, our main site ranks:

#2 on Google
#1 on Yahoo
#1 on Ask.com
#2 on MSN

& while I know that SEO has nothing to do with your PR score, why would our PR3 site suddenly drop to PR0? I removed any unrelated links, & any links to PR1 or PR0 sites, yet this resulted in nothing.

What did, or did we not do?
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Re: My PR3 site took a nose dive right to PR0, any change it the rules?

Posted 17 October 2007 - 11:18 AM

Do you have your site in Webmaster Central (www.google.com/webmasters) ?? If so, is it showing any penalty messages?
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Re: My PR3 site took a nose dive right to PR0, any change it the rules?

Posted 17 October 2007 - 11:26 AM

View Postskyhawk133, on 17 Oct, 2007 - 11:18 AM, said:

Do you have your site in Webmaster Central (www.google.com/webmasters) ??

Yes.

View Postskyhawk133, on 17 Oct, 2007 - 11:18 AM, said:

If so, is it showing any penalty messages?

No, but for some reason it shows zero links to my site... Which is odd, cuz this shows different.
http://www.iwebtool....w.akroncdnr.com

Did Google change what they define as a backlink?

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Posted 19 October 2007 - 07:07 AM

I noticed that your site has sponsored links. There's a theory going around in the blogosphere about Google penalising sites selling text links. See the following for reference
http://www.entrepren...gerank-penalty/
http://www.sabahan.c...ing-paid-links/
http://www.dailyblog...-text-link-ads/
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Posted 19 October 2007 - 02:27 PM

Google does look for paid links with their algorithm. While they can not blacklist your site, they can hurt your rankings.

Matt Cutts of Google explains in a detailed blog post
http://www.mattcutts...s-and-pagerank/
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Posted 19 October 2007 - 02:48 PM

Thank you both, that's very helpful! Once these sites are removed, how long until my ratings will return? Months? Ever???
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Posted 20 October 2007 - 06:02 AM

If the links are sponsored, I guess you still want the income from them. Removing them would probably be the last thing you want.

Unless your sponsors base a large part of their advertising decision on page rank, I'd suggest you ignore Google. Just continue providing excellent service, and garner back links from satisfied customers. When enough of these back links happen, search engines automatically push you to their front SERPs.

Search engines are constantly improving their algorithms. Playing catch-up takes time and effort. But they all look for the same thing: great, relevant content. So give them that!
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Posted 20 October 2007 - 09:24 AM

I pull the sponsored links off dream.in.code last week when we took a dive from a 5 to a 4. Could be unrelated, but wanted to play it safe. Working on deals with the sponsors now to advertise those links with nofollow or through a javascript redirect...won't be NEARLY worth as much but whatever.
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Posted 31 October 2007 - 05:06 PM

Ok... I'm not sure wtf is going on, but after months now my pr3 is back? Did Google re-change the change?

http://www.iwebtool....w.akroncdnr.com

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 09:52 PM

From what I understand, there's been a wave of PR updates lately from Google. The last ones came in late October, where it appears that sites adhering to Google recommendations got their old PR back. I've even heard of sites jumping up in PR.

The use of the nofollow attribute in link tags seemed to be the main cure. Text link selling was the main cause of the tsunamis (check this ProBlogger article for more info).
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