[Tyr4el]

Jon: I wouldn't know how to make that seeing as I have no access to create a website. It's a very basic layout though so I could do that if I had the web resources. But how do you implement Python in a website? Doesn't that use Django or something?

I do know it would need basic math, if/then statements, etc. So at least I know something ::scratches head::


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Atli, on 04 November 2014 - 12:36 PM, said:

xclite, on 04 November 2014 - 06:16 PM, said:

The last thing I want is to end up on a team of Java-only programmers.

I see your Java-only team, and raise you a PHP-only team!

At least Java forces some modicum of structure on your share of idiot programmers. On our side they run rampant; crapping all over the source without so much as a compiler warning.

At least they might know some HTML too

[Atli]

HTML is the medium with which they crap all over our source code. It's the bane of PHP development.

[macosxnerd101]

As long as there is no I in MySQL. That's the sign of a prepared developer.

[jon.kiparsky]

Atli, on 04 November 2014 - 02:36 PM, said:

I see your Java-only team, and raise you a PHP-only team!

At least Java forces some modicum of structure on your share of idiot programmers. On our side they run rampant; crapping all over the source without so much as a compiler warning.

Quoted for mother-lovin' truth. Oh, the misery of a PHP shop. And have you noticed how PHP shops are always PHP-only? (apart from the guy in the corner who knows some javascript and some css)

[jon.kiparsky]

Tyr4el, on 04 November 2014 - 02:44 PM, said:

Jon: I wouldn't know how to make that seeing as I have no access to create a website. It's a very basic layout though so I could do that if I had the web resources. But how do you implement Python in a website? Doesn't that use Django or something?

I do know it would need basic math, if/then statements, etc. So at least I know something ::scratches head::

You don't need to do it as a web thing - a command-line application would be fine. You have a working model, can you implement something like it in Python?
It's a good exercise - it's not hugely difficult, but it's got some nice complications. And if you get stuck, you can try to read the BASIC source code for ideas.

[Tyr4el]

jon.kiparsky, on 04 November 2014 - 02:22 PM, said:

Atli, on 04 November 2014 - 02:36 PM, said:

I see your Java-only team, and raise you a PHP-only team!

At least Java forces some modicum of structure on your share of idiot programmers. On our side they run rampant; crapping all over the source without so much as a compiler warning.

Quoted for mother-lovin' truth. Oh, the misery of a PHP shop. And have you noticed how PHP shops are always PHP-only? (apart from the guy in the corner who knows some javascript and some css)

Are Javascript and CSS not great to learn? Is that what you're suggesting?


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jon.kiparsky, on 04 November 2014 - 02:27 PM, said:

Tyr4el, on 04 November 2014 - 02:44 PM, said:

Jon: I wouldn't know how to make that seeing as I have no access to create a website. It's a very basic layout though so I could do that if I had the web resources. But how do you implement Python in a website? Doesn't that use Django or something?

I do know it would need basic math, if/then statements, etc. So at least I know something ::scratches head::

You don't need to do it as a web thing - a command-line application would be fine. You have a working model, can you implement something like it in Python?
It's a good exercise - it's not hugely difficult, but it's got some nice complications. And if you get stuck, you can try to read the BASIC source code for ideas. />

Challenge accepted, sir.


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[jon.kiparsky]

Tyr4el, on 04 November 2014 - 04:49 PM, said:

Are Javascript and CSS not great to learn? Is that what you're suggesting?

Well, no - if you're going to do web programming, you're not going to be able to do a lot without them. But if you find yourself in a shop where the only polyglot is the guy who knows some javascript and css in addition to the PHP, you should review the actions that brought you to that pass and figure out where you've gone horribly wrong, because at that point you know you're in hell.

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Challenge accepted, sir.

That's the stuff.

[Jim.Stanley9]

Your first programing language is always the hardest to learn. You are also learning how to think logically and in code. It is my experience that every additional language I pick up makes me a better programmer. Each language has different ways to do thinks and often teaches me a different approach to many problems in other languages. Also each additional language makes it easier to pick up the next language.

In more than half the shops I have been in I have worked with two or more languages. I also dabble.

So yes, once you are comfortable in one language start picking up another. Languages that were once popular are now no longer taught. I understand that the number of lines of COBOL worldwide has fallen below 5 trillion.

[Tyr4el]

I think that's very true. It is quite hard. I'm learning to think logically and in a coding way rather than plan English and it's hard.

What are these shops I keep reading aboutv


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[modi123_1]

A shop is your work place.

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Jim.Stanley9, on 04 November 2014 - 06:47 PM, said:

I understand that the number of lines of COBOL worldwide has fallen below 5 trillion.

bull, I worked for a credit processor whose platform alone was easily 5 trillion lines of COBOL

[Atli]

How would one actually know how many lines of COBOL there are anyway?

[modi123_1]

What? You don't keep a scrolling LED sign with the current tallies of lines of code per languages, and the up/down trends for the day?
Pffsst.

[depricated]

that credit processor I mentioned had a huge video wall that showed all the transactions going through in real time. Like...why? It only helped in like 1-2% of outages, and the help it provided was pretty small - we could see that it wasn't scrolling.

Pretty lame.