[astonecipher]

Yep, this was:

I was hired as a strickly backend developer with light front-end. Did three projects they were happy with. Then, upgrade this front end system using these plugins I like. Each plug-in broke the next Javascript that was next and the upgrade was a fully involved process. One of the template file was 6000 lines of code I had to go through line by line and there were 131 template files. "it should take about a week", nope! I left 2 weeks ago now and their system still isn't updated. So, even the experienced dev is having trouble implementing the changes. But, I was blamed for not being up on those technologies.

[rgfirefly24]

sounds like where I used to work. They just let a guy go because he "couldn't get up to speed fast enough" on an application even though the team that built it couldn't get it to work properly. I would spend 100 hour weeks before I left trying to monkey the end users requirements and the system to jive, but it just would never work. The company just doesn't want to see it because they think that it was a revolutionary product that they spent too much money/time on to let it go.

This post has been edited by rgfirefly24: 12 June 2015 - 09:19 AM

[BetaWar]

Testing found a defect in my last project (yay, just what I wanted...) and assigned the fix to me. I looked over it and found that (at least I believe) the solution is literally a single line change. At least it is easy... Sadly it means a whole new round of code reviews, and a back-clone, and testing, and more code reviews, and check-in. Process.

[Martyr2]

rgfirefly24, on 12 June 2015 - 09:19 AM, said:

sounds like where I used to work. They just let a guy go because he "couldn't get up to speed fast enough" on an application even though the team that built it couldn't get it to work properly. I would spend 100 hour weeks before I left trying to monkey the end users requirements and the system to jive, but it just would never work. The company just doesn't want to see it because they think that it was a revolutionary product that they spent too much money/time on to let it go.

Companies have to start practicing the idea that throwing more good money after bad is not the way to go. If smart programmers are having trouble getting a system to work, it usually means bad design or bad technologies that the product was built on.

They need to be willing to stop things and say "Hey, this is not working. Does it need some kind of rebuild?" Sometimes a rebuild doesn't mean from scratch. Sometimes I have been able to take an existing system and part it out of the good stuff, toss it into a framework, write a little specialized code and be up in running in half the time it would take from scratch.

I have seen awesome programming talent get churned through because of this type of thing. Companies are just hoping that by throwing programmers at the wall one of them will stick and their problems will be solved. If they don't "stick" then they are gone. Really sucks.

These are also typically the same companies who also turn to cheaper and cheaper programmers to help make their "toss a programmer against the wall" method won't cause them to bleed cash in the process. Which is never a good tactic because less talented programmers aren't going to solve the tough problems.

Eventually a company gives up or runs out of money to keep throwing at the project. Sometimes companies hate me for the fact that I will tell them up front with a line like "Ok the design here is not going to work and no matter how much time/talent you throw at it, it won't solve the problem. The solution is scrap either part or all of the project and do a rewrite". Sometimes they ignore me and sometimes they agree. The ones that agree usually end up winning in the end.

[macosxnerd101]

We had a code review today. My component was working great! I need to tweak so my debug output is more descriptive, and I also will need to tweak once the input file format and metric key output format are better specified. Those aren't major shakes though. I'm presently working on getting the Docker supporting files created to distribute the app.

[Damage]

tv shows don't often have a "lasting" effect on me

but the latest episode of game of thrones

Jesus christ

[depricated]

haven't seen it yet, won't for a bit, but all I can say is "what the fuck did you expect"

I'm kind of wondering, hoping, it ended with Jon where Dance of Dragons ended with Jon and that's why everyone is freaking out. But I dunno, I haven't sought out the spoilers yet.

[alapee]

Menu Today:
Monday

[BenignDesign]

Popped the question yesterday. He answered in the affirmative.

[depricated]

omfg that's awesome!

[BetaWar]

Congrats B9!

[macosxnerd101]

New movie: My big fat Amish wedding.

Congrats again, B9!

[astonecipher]

I was thinking more, "My big fat cosplay wedding."

[NeoTifa]

OMG B9 THAT'S AWESOME!!!!

[depricated]

spent my lunch trying to hunt down a stuffed ferret to no avail

looks like I'll be ordering one off Amazon