[MarcusLesarge]

It is a fact that every object and everything in life can be described in number and I just wanted to share some computer science knowledge I learned from study that change my life as a programmer.

Every object inside the computer is a set of numbers and every object in life is a set of number and believe it or not I found out that an object inside the computer as a set of numbers is the same set of numbers that it is in real life.

So if your looking to understand binary coding witch the makers of minecraft are masters of all you have to know is the object is being represent in the same binary numbers inside the computer that it is represented by in real life.

[modi123_1]

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binary coding witch the makers of minecraft are masters of all

I am pretty sure Notch just used Java and not direct binary.

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all you have to know is the object is being represent in the same binary numbers inside the computer that it is represented by in real life.

That makes zero sense.

[MarcusLesarge]

everything inlife can be desrbie by numbers since everything has patterns to it, patterns are sequences of numbers, any sequence of numbers from 1 to 9 can be translated to binary in binary zero high numbers are negative one high numbers are positive. so translating things patterns into series of numbers you put those series of numbers into a computer to program that pattern of that thing into the computer.

describe* is what I meant to type my damn computer key have tobacco stuck in them

[modi123_1]

Mmmm.. that's a stretch. A big stretch.

Let alone basics like: love, hate, other emotions, consciousness, etc are not numerically describable.

[MarcusLesarge]

modi123_1, on 07 April 2015 - 01:56 PM, said:

Mmmm.. that's a stretch. A big stretch.

Let alone basics like: love, hate, other emotions, consciousness, etc are not numerically describable.

emotions are describable by numbers since they have measurements such as levels and relations to objects with heights and widths and nature like positive(1) nature or negative nature(0).
At first I also thought that certain things were not describable by numbers until I was 21 years old and in my imagination tried figuring out how electricity works by playing with electricity and wire in my imagination doing experiments in my imagination with wires and electricity. that is when I realised through attempts that the electricity could be figured out mathematically with physics.

plus emotions are energy based and energy has readings and levels and color relations. plus the shapes of the organs that produces the emotions have measurements and they also go through chemical changes when the emotion starts happening that are related to the emotions activities. so you could describe emotion as chemical change in biology and physics.

[modi123_1]

All I see is a lot of hand waving and zero proof.

[MarcusLesarge]

modi123_1, on 07 April 2015 - 02:11 PM, said:

All I see is a lot of hand waving and zero proof.

well just start thinking in numbers count things, number things, name things. One big downfall of the great thinker is not having a name for something they want to think of. What things in life do you have a name for what things in life do you not have a name for? If you don't have a name for something it will be hard to think about analyze and give a number to in you mind. so just start naming things what you want to call them why should you let another person decide what you call something. a name is a personal thing every name you give something or call something means something about how you fell about that object. you name beautiful things good sounding names you name ugly things disgusting sounding names, but things without names you cannot think about in your head because you think about things by talking about them inside your head.

You can play with restrictions and releases to uncage your intellect with a simple game. Now if you could only call each thing in life what number.. what one number is each thing in life. . then you ask your self if you can only call each thing in life two numbers what two numbers do you call them... then 3 then 4 then 5 then going up to limitless numbers and with this you get to know things numbers. it will make you really good at math if you do math with these numbers to figure things you want to know about these objects you have numbered.

[modi123_1]

Numbers do not name things.

Never mind.. I'll get off of the train at this station.

[MarcusLesarge]

if you could only call each object in life a single number would you let another person decide what number you cal any of the things? and if you wouldn't why will you now let them decide what name you call any one of the given things considering words are alpha-numeric?

shapes are numbers so letters are numbers

*call not "cal"

[baavgai]

Hmm... two concepts is play here. One is binary. Yes, binary is clever. Leibniz had a eureka moment when he saw that any number system could be reduced to base 2. Of course, he'd been reading the i-ching, so he doesn't get all the credit.

Can you describe reality in symbols? Sure. Could you use yin and yang as your only symbols? Yep, but for carbon based life forms you'll probably need a key. Speaking of which, all life can actually be described as configurations of positive and negative particles that make up atoms, that make up molecules, that make up matter.

But fully describing even an ant turd would probably take more power than all the computers on the planet. Let's say you could describe reality in a binary language. By the time you were done, you'd essentially end up duplicating what you were describing and wondering why you'd bothered.

It's a nice insight, but don't get too excited. Long dead dudes without computers have been going on about this kind of thing pretty much since fire.

[no2pencil]

modi123_1, on 07 April 2015 - 04:48 PM, said:

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all you have to know is the object is being represent in the same binary numbers inside the computer that it is represented by in real life.

That makes zero sense.

Allow me to sum it up : this guy just watched Pi & wants to show us how intellectual he can be.

@MarcusLesarge, here is food for thought, throughout history, man has created & used math to explain nature. What is time? Just a measurement used to describe the difference between two events. What is summer? It's another man made measurement of a "time" in nature? For every time you think you find a way to see life as numbers, it's because man-kind uses math to understand science. I say so what. We have always tried to measure, control, & eventually benefit from what we don't understand. Life is about over coming fears & obsticals. Woo...

[ge∅]

The fact that something sounds pretty and neat to you doesn't mean it's real or even true (and if you think it's the same thing : it's not). You can make arguments and come to a logical-absolute-perfect-beautiful conclusion based on hypothesis that are false. Even the reasoning can sound totally coherent and be false. It happens all the time. Scientists have recorded an impressive list of cognitive biases over the centuries, and the thrill you seem to be experiencing is one of them. Simply saying the word "everything" in science is downright stupid when you think twice about it.

Maths and Philosophy have the same problem when they try to model reality. It's all about the reasoning, it's all about "absolute" and "perfect" ideas, but you have to start somewhere and this somewhere can only be assumed to be true. Even Descartes's "I think so I am" is questionable, and you can hardly think of a simpler postulate. Maths usually avoids the issue because it doesn't burden itself with reality. You can set axioms and build something clever around them : as long as it doesn't contradict your postulate it will be true within the very defined scope of this postulate. Real life doesn't bother what you assume to be true, it simply is.

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It is a fact that every object and everything in life can be described in number

This statement* is so unquestioningly true that it blinds your judgement : a description is a mental representation of reality, not reality. Yes, you can describe everything with numbers, but how accurate is this representation ? it has the limits of 1- your perception, 2- your intelligence. It's called the egocentric predicament if you want to google it.

We have a great tool that is Maths. It's in perpetual improvement, it can describe a lot of things, but only the things you are able to imagine. Maths is the measurement of human intelligence, not real life. Describing reality can only be* a goal.

This post has been edited by ge∅: 07 April 2015 - 04:09 PM

[MarcusLesarge]

I like the views and all I was trying to do was give who have cares to have a heads up about how to translate binary for lot's of people download hex editors a clearer idea of what their looking at.

Binary is my life, when I was a kid I wanted to be the best hacker and programmer in all life. so I studied computers and computers come down to how binary works and when I was a kid it took me years to figure out how binary works.

so it's just what i'm intrested in and that's why I posted on it.