[ChrisNt]

"Next time you're prompted to update the Java software on your computer, pay attention or you might become a Yahoo user without realizing it. "

"The search company has cut a deal with Oracle to promote Yahoo search alongside future updates to Oracle's Java technology, which runs on most PCs. Starting this month, when people are prompted to update to the next version of Java, they'll be asked if they want to make Yahoo their default search engine on Chrome and Internet Explorer."

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What is your opinion on this ? Is this a desperate tactic from Yahoo ...or this is the only way to deal with Google's "monopoly tactics" ? I think we all agree that its really annoying !

This post has been edited by ChrisNt: 13 July 2015 - 08:10 AM
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[no2pencil]

I don't think this is necessarily deceitful of Yahoo so much as of Oracle. Oracle is the one specifically trying to make money off knowing it's users will auto-accept.

Secondly, Google isn't a monopoly. If it were, you wouldn't be reading about Yahoo's search engine because there wouldn't be one.

[Twilightdusk]

I think a majority of people who accept this without realizing it will wonder why their search suddenly changed and, after a quick google search on how to do so, will set their default search engine back to Google.

[ChrisNt]

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Secondly, Google isn't a monopoly. If it were, you wouldn't be reading about Yahoo's search engine because there wouldn't be one.

This is another huge topic so I probably should not have mentioned about Google's monopoly ..

This post has been edited by ChrisNt: 13 July 2015 - 08:00 AM

[no2pencil]

As per Wikipedia :

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A monopoly exists when a specific person or enterprise is the only supplier of a particular commodity

Should Oracle be doing this? It's their software, & it's legal. Is it moral? They are telling you that the change is happening. Is Google a monopoly? Not a chance in hell. Another situation of perceived self-victimization in my opinion.

[modi123_1]

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Is this a desperate tactic from Yahoo

It's business.

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...or this is the only way to deal with Google's monopoly ?

Google is not a monopoly, and I doubt this will do much to address (in what ever way you are considering) the monolith of the googles.

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I think we all agree that its really annoying !

As is any of the myriad of bloatware that comes with any install. I can't remember the last time I did "default install" on anything.

[no2pencil]

In fact, I would like to add that Oracle installations USED to make ask.com the default search engine.

So yeah... There's that.

[modi123_1]

I am somewhat sad they didn't ask to install a toolbar.


https://www.java.com...ask_toolbar.xml

I always thought the EULA in a four line textbox was a nice touch.

[ChrisNt]

Sure, Google is not a monopoly today.. I corrected my phrase.

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As is any of the myriad of bloatware that comes with any install. I can't remember the last time I did "default install" on anything.

But we are talking about Oracle and Java should that considered acceptable?

[no2pencil]

Oracle could remove add-in content, & no longer provide a free product with free updates.

[modi123_1]

Why would they be anything different than the altavistaian-gopher-spyder-pr0nz-torrent-tracking-and-COD-aimbot tool I installed?

[ChrisNt]

So I guess we just have to deal with it.. I remember taking a look at my uncle's computer and he had so many programs-toolbars without having any idea about them so many people fall into that trap because they don't have the knowledge.Companies clearly know what they are doing.

This post has been edited by ChrisNt: 13 July 2015 - 08:31 AM

[modi123_1]

If by know what they are doing you mean make money.. yup.. they do.

How many is too many toolbars?

Totes my machine, right now. *wink, wink* *nudge nudge*

[modi123_1]

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That's a little rude.. now continuity has been spiked and part of the discussion is not making sense.

Bad form.

(my own opinion)

[sholle]

I personally refuse to page down to see my first result.

This post has been edited by macosxnerd101: 13 July 2015 - 10:00 AM
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