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#1 Zel2008   User is offline

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Job advice?

Posted 10 February 2016 - 09:30 PM

Hi all,

I'm having the worst time finding a job. I have 7 years of experience with web development in PHP and Javascript, but I've always been in jobs that don't use the newer frameworks, like Laravel or AngularJS. So, no one will even give me a chance. I've applied for close to 50 jobs this past month alone, and my resume is never even considered. I'm absolutely open to learning these frameworks, but I'm not sure how to go about getting professional experience with them when you need professional experience to get a job using them. It's a really frustrating Catch-22. Can anyone give me some advice, please?

Thanks,
Zel2008

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#2 modi123_1   User is online

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Re: Job advice?

Posted 10 February 2016 - 10:40 PM

Learn the frameworks, answer tech questions on them, and if asked explain that while your previous jobs didn't use them you kept up with tech trends and use them on person projects and side work.
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Re: Job advice?

Posted 10 February 2016 - 10:56 PM

Maybe apply for jobs that use stuff you've actually got on your resume?
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Re: Job advice?

Posted 11 February 2016 - 12:39 AM

I'm basically in the same boat, but with Java, and the frameworks being Spring and Hibernate. My advice would be if you learn those frameworks you should build a portfolio with them. Maybe use those sites for freelancers?
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#5 Zel2008   User is offline

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Re: Job advice?

Posted 11 February 2016 - 04:55 PM

Thanks for the advice everybody; I appreciate it. It sounds like learning them independently and building an independent portfolio is the way to go. :)
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Re: Job advice?

Posted 11 February 2016 - 05:46 PM

View PostZel2008, on 10 February 2016 - 11:30 PM, said:

I have 7 years of experience with web development in PHP and Javascript

Currently working? How many of these 7 years are professional development?

View PostZel2008, on 10 February 2016 - 11:30 PM, said:

So, no one will even give me a chance.

Why not continue to learn on the side? Take side jobs or offer volunteer work.

View PostZel2008, on 10 February 2016 - 11:30 PM, said:

I've applied for close to 50 jobs this past month alone, and my resume is never even considered.

How do you know it's not been considered? I've had some places call me same day, I've had some places call me 3 months later.

View PostZel2008, on 10 February 2016 - 11:30 PM, said:

I'm absolutely open to learning these frameworks,

Then do it. Why learn on the job? Show initiative.

Also.... what's your resume look like? If it's done with grammar errors or otherwise poorly written/missing important items, your work experience won't even be considered. The care you take putting into your resume & cover letter is a great example & an insight into the work your going to produce. You have to realize that there is more than just technical to programming work. Scrum meetings, reporting, documentation... your resume is an example as to how you may provide this kind of work.

For example.... you posted this in freelancing. Your asking about corporate work, which goes under corner cubicle. If you speed through things, & don't read the details, it will show. Moving to Corner Cubicle.
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#7 Nitewalkr   User is offline

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Re: Job advice?

Posted 17 February 2016 - 02:36 PM

The way that I am about to earn my professional experience is by submitting free hours of coding with a bargain of letter of recommendation approving that I do know the things that I have stated in my CV, therefore I am qualified for the job that I have applied for.

Why not look for pro-bono projects to work on, see how the projects standards are, make work samples relevant to the current industrial needs. (no, dont copy paste.)
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Re: Job advice?

Posted 17 February 2016 - 04:03 PM

The specific frameworks should not be a hindrance when you have years in the language. Could it be your CV is crap? Have you considered going to workshops or having it professionally worked on?

My resume had my experience on it, like it should, but was not well done. I have a resume specialist look at it and after 4 hours had a stunning piece of art. Had the buzzwords HR looks for, itemized things a wee bit better. Made a world of difference.
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Re: Job advice?

Posted 20 February 2016 - 11:36 AM

I think no2pencil and astonecipher have hit the nail right on the head.

95% chance its your resume and not your work experience or you that's the problem,

go get it professionally done !
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