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#1786 ArtificialSoldier   User is offline

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Re: Election blather

Posted 10 June 2020 - 02:36 PM

Pretty good read from an ex cop:

Confessions of a Former Bastard Cop
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Re: Election blather

Posted 10 June 2020 - 05:12 PM

This is an amazing quote:

"There are many models for community safety that can be explored if we get away from the idea that the only way to be safe is to have a man with a M4 rifle prowling your neighborhood ready at a moment’s notice to write down your name and birthday after you’ve been robbed and beaten."
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Re: Election blather

Posted 11 June 2020 - 10:03 AM

I'm looking for appealing candidates (incumbent or challengers) in House races in battleground states - specifically thinking Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Florida, but any state that has up in the air and has a reasonable shot of going to Biden will do. Ideally, these would be solidly left-leaning candidates, if possible I'm thinking of people who appeal to the Bernie voter.

Basically, my dad is a Bernie supporter, not well pleased with Biden, and I want to give him a list of candidates whose GOTV war chest will boost voter turnout in districts that will make a difference to the outcome of the presidential contest as well as hopefully swinging the House to the left. In other words, I want to give him a way to contribute to the Beat Trump effort without donating to Biden's campaign, which would be painful to him. (also, I suspect that local congressional campaigns are better situated to do the GOTV than the national Biden campaigns - but that's just the old organizer in me talking)

It's a lot of research, so any suggestions are welcome.
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Re: Election blather

Posted 11 June 2020 - 10:19 AM

well good luck in PA. that's where i Hail from--- the state was so gerrymandered by the gop that they were literally taken to the supreme court to have districts redrawn.

as for dems:

Lamb is a solid bet -- he is going up against sean parnell who is a trumper to the max ---
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Re: Election blather

Posted 11 June 2020 - 10:30 AM

View PostDarenR, on 11 June 2020 - 12:19 PM, said:

well good luck in PA. that's where i Hail from--- the state was so gerrymandered by the gop that they were literally taken to the supreme court to have districts redrawn.


The useful thing here is it doesn't really matter that much, since the goal is just to get more people voting in the state. Obviously, racking up some wins would be nice too, but I don't mind recommending long shots, as long as they can bring out the bodies.

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Lamb is a solid bet -- he is going up against sean parnell who is a trumper to the max ---


Thanks, I'll look into him.
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Re: Election blather

Posted 11 June 2020 - 10:43 AM

Lamb
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Re: Election blather

Posted 11 June 2020 - 11:10 AM

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Basically, my dad is a Bernie supporter, not well pleased with Biden

He sounds like a smart guy.

Here in AZ the Democrats might manage to flip a Senate seat. We already have one Democrat senator, I'm not sure the last time we had 2. Republican Martha McSally, best known for being appointed to Jon Kyl's old seat, and being named Martha McSally, is being challenged by former astronaut, Navy captain, twin, and husband of Gabby Giffords, who was shot in the head during a public appearance in Tuscon but survived. His name is Mark Kelly.

Although apparently McSally was an A-10 pilot, and the first female to fly in combat and command a fighter squadron. Hmm, that's going to be closer than I thought. An A-10 pilot versus an A-6 pilot who also crewed, piloted, and commanded space shuttles. However, McSally was appointed two months after losing to our current Democratic senator. So, if we're willing to send the hottest bisexual woman senator, surely an astronaut isn't a stretch. The polls are basically undecided at this point, Kelly usually leads McSally by a lot (13% according to Fox), but there can be a lot of undecideds (13%) that would bring it within the margin of error (3%) for the poll.

AZ has been pushing more liberal lately, we might finally vote for a Democrat president this time. Since 1952, the only time the state has voted D was 1996. Trump won in 2016 by 3.6%, then again a lot of Republicans here didn't vote in that election. Our Reps are split 5-4, but only 4 seats (3 R, 1 D) may flip.
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Re: Election blather

Posted 11 June 2020 - 11:47 AM

so basically she won a participation trophy..

and her trump antics arent helping her
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Re: Election blather

Posted 11 June 2020 - 12:06 PM

That's a tough one - the A-10 is one of the coolest aircraft ever built. "Hey, ya see that giant fucking gun over there? No, not that little thing, the big one behind it. Yeah, that. I want you to bolt some wings and an engine to it and make it fly. Maybe some missiles too, that would be sick. And a seat if there's room."
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Re: Election blather

Posted 11 June 2020 - 01:00 PM

View PostArtificialSoldier, on 11 June 2020 - 01:10 PM, said:

Here in AZ the Democrats might manage to flip a Senate seat.



Yeah, there's definitely four up for grabs, and a few more looking tempting. (Apparently they're real nervous about Montana, of all places!) And I'm definitely putting money into those races - I figure, all the money that the pandemic is saving me on subway fare, getting coffee out, eating out, all of that, it's all going to go into punching Trump in the face, electorally speaking.

But here I'm thinking particularly of House races - they're all up for grabs, so it's easier to point someone to a state where the electoral college vote is likely to be close, like PA or OH. So I figure if someone wants to defeat Trump but doesn't want to contribute to Biden, that's a good place to make a difference.
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Re: Election blather

Posted 11 June 2020 - 01:44 PM

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the A-10 is one of the coolest aircraft ever built

One of my favorites. But I would have to ignore a lot about her. Besides, space shuttle.

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a state where the electoral college vote is likely to be close

My gut tells me it's going to be close here. But it's hard to say, we've never been thought of as a battleground.
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Re: Election blather

Posted 11 June 2020 - 02:10 PM

Cool. So who's running for the House that I should know about?
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Re: Election blather

Posted 11 June 2020 - 02:18 PM

That's a great question. If you find out, let me know.
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Re: Election blather

Posted 11 June 2020 - 05:36 PM

Jaime Harrison seems to have a shot of unseating Lady G.

https://abcnews4.com...-us-senate-seat
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Re: Election blather

Posted 11 June 2020 - 06:00 PM

~16% unsure or someone else. Man, I want to believe. In the same poll Trump leads Biden 52 to 42 with only 6% unsure or someone else. 9% of people were unsure about their feelings about LG, 37% unsure about Harrison. Trump is 51% favorable, 47% unfavorable, 3% unsure.

I want to believe, I really do. But that bottle of wine I won from Jon really pops up every time I see the uncertainty margin. Maybe it's a real thing, or maybe I just don't know how it compares to "normal" elections where no major candidate was considered to be controversial.

I just feel like if anyone is unsure, they're going to lean towards Trump and his people. I don't imagine anyone being "unsure" and then thinking at the last minute "you know, those guys are dicks, I'm going to vote Democrat." I think 99% of people who are going to vote Democrat are not unsure about their choice because it's very obvious to many people that those guys are, in fact, dicks. If you're not sure if Trump is a dick then you're probably going to vote for him. That's what got me that bottle of wine, anyway.
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