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#301 jon.kiparsky   User is offline

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Re: Election blather

Posted 20 January 2017 - 01:37 PM

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“The time for empty talk is over. Now arrives the hour for action"


This sounded better in the original German.
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Re: Election blather

Posted 20 January 2017 - 06:03 PM

A lot of people have "guilty pleasures" like eating chocolate or having drunken sex with strangers or stuff like that. I didn't think I had any of those until I came across a video of a nazi douchebag getting punched in the face. This is now the best thing I've seen all day.
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#303 Atli   User is offline

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Re: Election blather

Posted 20 January 2017 - 09:34 PM

View Postjon.kiparsky, on 20 January 2017 - 06:08 PM, said:

View PostAtli, on 20 January 2017 - 12:52 PM, said:

How many times have we thrown out a crappy codebase and started over, rather waste our time trying to keep the thing running.


How many times has that actually been a good idea?

Depends. I've worked mostly on "repairing" PHP systems written by cheap outsourcing companies. So in my case it's almost always a good idea.
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Re: Election blather

Posted 20 January 2017 - 09:36 PM

Okay, I'll grant you that. If there's PHP involved, the only refactoring worth doing starts with "first, pick a framework that isn't PHP".

(but you knew I was going to agree with you on that one :) )
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Re: Election blather

Posted 20 January 2017 - 10:34 PM

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Re: Election blather

Posted 20 January 2017 - 10:39 PM

jon you just made my day
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Re: Election blather

Posted 20 January 2017 - 10:46 PM

View PostAtli, on 20 January 2017 - 08:34 PM, said:

View Postjon.kiparsky, on 20 January 2017 - 06:08 PM, said:

View PostAtli, on 20 January 2017 - 12:52 PM, said:

How many times have we thrown out a crappy codebase and started over, rather waste our time trying to keep the thing running.


How many times has that actually been a good idea?

Depends. I've worked mostly on "repairing" PHP systems written by cheap outsourcing companies. So in my case it's almost always a good idea.


Funny, I am on the opposite end of creating great systems that I eventually see get outsourced to companies who then screw it up and then probably fall in your lap. It is like we are distant system cousins! ;)
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Re: Election blather

Posted 25 January 2017 - 10:10 AM

If anyone is reading 1984, you're not alone. It's the #1 selling book on Amazon right now after Kellyanne Conway's "alternative facts" interview. George Takei hit the nail on the head again.

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Kellyanne Conway now refers to their lies as "alternative facts." We get it. War is peace, freedom is slavery, Trump is presidential.

It makes sense that the alt-right which propelled Trump to the office has their own set of rules with alt-facts. We're less than a week in and things are already starting to look double plus ungood. It sounds like the next protest is scheduled for tax day to address Trump's alt-fact that no one cares about his tax returns.
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Re: Election blather

Posted 25 January 2017 - 10:23 AM

Pffsst.. Next you'll try and tell me 'Animal Farm' is making a come back.
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Re: Election blather

Posted 25 January 2017 - 10:42 AM

How many ways do these people have to say "We will lie to you any time we want, about anything we want" before their base realizes that maybe this isn't going to go so well for them?

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If anyone is reading 1984, you're not alone. It's the #1 selling book on Amazon right now


I recently read "It Can't Happen Here", which was reprinted when Needledick's candidacy started actually getting traction. It's worth a look, as long as you're not prone to nightmares. Also re-read Catch-22, which I hadn't read since high school, and that was disturbingly topical as well.

In slightly less good news, I heard from an old friend of mine - we've been friends since the early '90s - who has a kid with CP and is seriously worried about bankruptcy if/when the nutbags go through with the Obamacare repeal. So we have an answer to "what have you got to lose?" - in his case, it's his house and everything he's spent the last twenty years working for. Needless to say, I'm spitting mad right now.
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Re: Election blather

Posted 25 January 2017 - 11:05 AM

Don't you have some sort of Democracy designed to limit what any Prezzi-Dent can do ?

Is their not some sort of Congress ?

and a second 'House' to limit what 'Congress' can do in any one sitting ?

Or is everything done by 'Executive Order' like the Kings and Queens used to do in the way way back ?

What you need is to ditch your Federal Republic and have a proper Parliamentary Democracy where you can shout abuse at someone for being a 'dick' in Parliament and get away with it.


:)

Edit:

I love jon's "Fuck Trump" bit

although I would possibly add an 'Up' at the end to avoid confusion ewww.....

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Re: Election blather

Posted 25 January 2017 - 11:07 AM

View Postmodi123_1, on 25 January 2017 - 12:23 PM, said:

Pffsst.. Next you'll try and tell me 'Animal Farm' is making a come back.


Animal Farm is holding steady, though it and 1984 did start to rise as Trump started to run. While Trump is passingly Napoleon, the Newspeak is more blatant, thus the spike.

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1984 isn't the only book experiencing a "Trump Bump."
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It Can't Happen Here, by Sinclair Lewis
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Brave New World, by Aldous Huxley
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Fahrenheit 451, by Ray Bradbury
-- http://time.com/mone...rave-new-world/


So, yeah, Trump Bump.

Also of note, remember that Dakota Pipeline thing I mentioned: Trump says fuck clean drinking water. In fact, wash that shit down with some Keystone XL. (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/24/us/politics/keystone-dakota-pipeline-trump.html)

Want to ask EPA about it? Tough. Trump gagged them: http://www.nytimes.c...-crackdown.html

But don't worry, Trump has his priorties straight, he's still bitching about crowd sizes. And imagines voter fraud against him ( https://www.nytimes....stigation.html. ) The orange shit gibbon won! The demonstrable voter fraud, the one for which there was actual evidence, the republicans quashed for the narcissist cheeto.

And this is just the news we see. You'd have to dig a little for this slice of dystopian horror:
Four more journalists get felony charges after covering inauguration unrest
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Re: Election blather

Posted 25 January 2017 - 11:11 AM

View Postjon.kiparsky, on 25 January 2017 - 12:42 PM, said:

In slightly less good news, I heard from an old friend of mine - we've been friends since the early '90s - who has a kid with CP and is seriously worried about bankruptcy if/when the nutbags go through with the Obamacare repeal. So we have an answer to "what have you got to lose?" - in his case, it's his house and everything he's spent the last twenty years working for. Needless to say, I'm spitting mad right now.


Yup. My kid is almost 16. Just taking into consideration the parts of Obamacare he has already negated (ie, coverage by parents to the age of 26 and pre-existing condition coverage), we're on course to lose absolutely everything - my kid included - in the next few years.

Once she's booted off my insurance for reaching the age limit (what will it be now? 18? 20? 22?), she'll be unable to find coverage under any plan at all because of her diagnosis. At current pharmaceutical prices, her medications and supplies will run ~$2,000/month - and that's not even touching the cost of her endocrinology visits, bloodwork, special eye exams, or podiatrist. Assuming the Shkreli's of the world aren't going away any time soon, this could increase exponentially at any time.

We have enough in savings to cover her for three months of prescriptions or two months of prescriptions plus medical care. After that, we have to start selling things off to cover medical expenses. "Get a second job" is the big suggestion I hear all the time. Two educated adults working full-time with "decent" salaries should be enough to support a family of four, right? Nope. Gotta go work evenings, weekends, and holidays at the Dollar Store. 40+ hours on a salary and 40+ hours on minimum wage ought to be enough to cover it, right? Nope. That full-time, minimum wage gig - after taxes - isn't going to bring in enough to cover half of the prescription costs alone. So if mancat and I BOTH work two full-time jobs, plus my kid works one full-time job AND goes to school full-time, we should be able to cover her healthcare.

However, if one of us gets sick or loses a job, we all just get to sit back and watch her slowly die.

Emigrating to Nova Scotia (the province I've looked into most recently) requires a job offer and Canadian sponsors and proof of ~$25k in the bank (for a family of 4). We have none of these things, and saving $25k in the next couple years is only going to happen if we disconnect all our utilities and stop eating. Even then, it could take years to get the application approved.

Lord Cheeto's supporters keep telling me I'm overreacting. I'd like to punch those people in the throat.
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Re: Election blather

Posted 25 January 2017 - 11:34 AM

Hmm,


Healthcare free at the point of source is not socialism it's 'Civilization'.


Here's a thought raise taxes on Gun's (also Bullets, and anything related to Guns) and use the Monies to fund free Healthcare.

America certainly has the 'Best' health care professionals in the World.
I mean that, and consider it to be true.

But Healthcare is now so expensive you have to be very rich to gain access to that aforesaid 'Best In the World'.

Its hardly Government for the people by the people is it ?

Its Government by the very rich for the very rich.

When Guns seem to have more priority though than a child with leukemia you have to question whether that Civilization has it's priorities straight or is even 'Civilized'.
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Re: Election blather

Posted 25 January 2017 - 01:20 PM

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So we have an answer to "what have you got to lose?"

There's fun at my house, too. On January 22nd I got an acknowledgement from Homeland Security that my wife's immigration paperwork has been received to upgrade her from H1-B to resident. She suffers from anxiety. So when we hear that the King Of Orange is getting ready to issue executive actions relating to visas and immigration, it's bound to be a fun-filled night.

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Or is everything done by 'Executive Order' like the Kings and Queens used to do in the way way back ?

It's a little from column A, and a little from column B. For example:

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The first executive order signed on Wednesday directs DHS to use existing funding to begin work on the border wall, although its completion will require an appropriation from Congress, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said at the daily briefing.

He can order DHS to use the money they have to start building the wall, but Congress still has to give them the money to finish it.
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