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Boeing Max groundings

Posted 13 March 2019 - 01:46 PM

Part of me can understand wanting to ground the planes until it determined what caused the two other flights to crash.

What I don't understand are senators and congress people demanding that the planes be inspected. Until Boeing and the investigators find out what caused the crash, what exactly is the FAA and Boeing supposed to be inspecting?
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Re: Boeing Max groundings

Posted 13 March 2019 - 01:49 PM

Blinker fluid, error codes, and other maintenance logs.

Example:
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Posted 13 March 2019 - 02:14 PM

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 02:37 PM

I used to shoot with somebody who works for the FAA. I remember him sending me that before. Thanks for the blast from the past!
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Posted 13 March 2019 - 02:46 PM

It was the internet's birthday yesterday.. gotta dredge up crap like that now and thing. Maybe something from Romp dot com (their fuck you dot com skit?), "Fire bad/Napster Bad" anti metalica video, or some ancient baud transferred adult images. Ha!
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Posted 15 March 2019 - 06:28 AM

I want to see a FlowChart for the subsystem that corrects for stall..

Like in the old days... PLAY computer...
With thousands of people examining the chart... the problem can be identified and fixed..
Obviously they didn't find the bug after the first crash..

Also... that subsystem should only be engaged on demand... When the Crew think there is a problem....
Hit the anti stall button...

If I had the source code... You'd see a flowchart in a week or less.

As an old Spaghetti coder... Flowcharting is the only answer..

http://www.telusplan...edan/pict01.jpg
http://www.telusplan...edan/pict02.jpg

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Re: Boeing Max groundings

Posted 15 March 2019 - 08:06 AM

Oh boy...
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Posted 15 March 2019 - 08:29 AM

For the curious: Here’s What Was on the Record About Problems With the 737 Max
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Re: Boeing Max groundings

Posted 16 March 2019 - 08:26 AM

View PostNeoTifa, on 15 March 2019 - 04:06 PM, said:

Oh boy...

And your answer is?
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Re: Boeing Max groundings

Posted 16 March 2019 - 10:46 AM

What would you do?
if you were part of the Boeing team that coded this up...
Not something anybody would want on their Resume ... now is it..

Was it structured code or Spaghetti ?

A transcript of the control tower conversations would be helpful...
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Posted 16 March 2019 - 12:05 PM

Hmmm. I thought there was a recent thread here asking about being a former aerospace controls engineer and wanting to go into software development and whether having the aerospace background may hinder his chances..l
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Posted 16 March 2019 - 03:12 PM

Here's that other thread: Software Development Jobs for Control Systems Aerospace Engineer?
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Re: Boeing Max groundings

Posted 18 March 2019 - 09:24 AM

Other Boeing aircraft ...
Does their software contain code... similar to the 737 max 8
Are they any safer?
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Posted 18 March 2019 - 10:39 AM

From what I understand the crashes may be relating to a system designed specifically for the MAX 8 due to its oversized engines and their forward position. I don't think the same software is on other models. It sounds like something with the system was rushed, either there are faulty sensors or faulty software. It sounds like the Lion Air plane, when it landed on its penultimate flight, had the system indicating angles of attack for the two sensors on each side of the aircraft that were 20 degrees different. Whether that's a sensor problem or a software problem, I don't know, but obviously, if one side of the plane was angled upwards 20 degrees more than the other side we're looking at some pretty crazy construction materials.
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Re: Boeing Max groundings

Posted 18 March 2019 - 11:39 AM

The CNN coverage of the sensors is pretty detailed. I can't vouch for the accuracy of the detailed content, though.
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