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Long FileNames the Greatest Feature

Posted 28 April 2019 - 08:13 AM

Being restricted to 8 characters for a filename is long gone..
Not using this field... Is just stupid.. Yup.
What a great replacement for "MetaData" that remains unseen and not easily managed...

So much easier to pass parameters to the app this way.
My video player can use the video file name to determine where in the file to start, the speed, play length...
Yup smart programmers use this field.. lots...

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Re: Long FileNames the Greatest Feature

Posted 28 April 2019 - 09:55 AM

Can you also support negative-length filenames?
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Re: Long FileNames the Greatest Feature

Posted 28 April 2019 - 11:24 AM

View Postxclite, on 28 April 2019 - 11:55 AM, said:

negative-length filenames?


Very useful, for example for undo functionality.
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Re: Long FileNames the Greatest Feature

Posted 28 April 2019 - 04:45 PM

But what do you do when you hit the 260 character limit that the Windows Explorer has? Just go on blindly past it since the OS supports 32K characters? Hope that the user is using one of the Win10 Preview Builds that goes past the 260 character limit?
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Re: Long FileNames the Greatest Feature

Posted 28 April 2019 - 04:55 PM

If you file names become the length of a tweet then you should feel bad because you are bad.
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Re: Long FileNames the Greatest Feature

Posted 29 April 2019 - 07:39 AM

View PostSkydiver, on 29 April 2019 - 12:45 AM, said:

But what do you do when you hit the 260 character limit that the Windows Explorer has? Just go on blindly past it since the OS supports 32K characters? Hope that the user is using one of the Win10 Preview Builds that goes past the 260 character limit?


I'd have been happy with 50 or 60 characters.. 8 was pathetic..
Some people should still be restricted to 8... Just too much power for some minds to comprehend..
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Re: Long FileNames the Greatest Feature

Posted 30 April 2019 - 08:01 AM

People think they need to remember the filename... Nope

8 characters of alpha and integer characters can be just a difficult.

Many / most media players probably don't do "partial keys" like this (up to 6)
If my app is searching for " bear/ road/2018" only those that have these 3 (max 6) in the name will be found.
Search for just " bear" and all files with bear in the name get selected.
Search for just "bird" and all bird files get found and displayed... Simple fast easy and no metadata needed...

https://www.youtube....h?v=pDhTnR0hqbo

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Re: Long FileNames the Greatest Feature

Posted 30 April 2019 - 09:48 AM

Any OS can find files of a certain type with keywords in the filename, but it's good that your video player can too. Hopefully your files don't lose useful data if someone changes the filename.
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Re: Long FileNames the Greatest Feature

Posted 30 April 2019 - 02:34 PM

View PostArtificialSoldier, on 30 April 2019 - 05:48 PM, said:

Any OS can find files of a certain type with keywords in the filename, but it's good that your video player can too. Hopefully your files don't lose useful data if someone changes the filename.

Segmented keywords / partial key search is what this app does..
If it finds the search items in the filename (up to 6) it's a match and the file gets opened / played
ie "bear on road 201812261100" can be found by entering
"2018/ roa/bea" or
"on road/bear/2018"
or any other combination..

With my previous pics and video cataloging... I needed to keep the catalog file with the files so the play and subject matter wasn't lost.
Almost as bad as having to update metadata..
the someone that changes the file name is me...
I would make another copy of the file and change the name details for a different start point...
I'd sooner have duplicates than to lose important files.. Backup backup backup...

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Re: Long FileNames the Greatest Feature

Posted 30 April 2019 - 05:33 PM

Ah, you're just building a program for yourself to use. I see, that makes sense.
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Re: Long FileNames the Greatest Feature

Posted 01 May 2019 - 04:15 AM

View PostSpectateSwamp, on 28 April 2019 - 10:13 AM, said:

My video player can use the video file name to determine where in the file to start, the speed, play length...

Or, you know, just read the meta data from the file and not rely on the user's naming convention being anything close to standard or useful.

See, files are a great feature: they can store all kinds of data and useful information. Filenames are a human feature, they give a a simple way to reference a file. A computer would be happy with just a location pointer. Indeed, that's exactly what it's happy with. Funny, that.
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Re: Long FileNames the Greatest Feature

Posted 01 May 2019 - 07:20 AM

View PostSpectateSwamp, on 30 April 2019 - 03:34 PM, said:

View PostArtificialSoldier, on 30 April 2019 - 05:48 PM, said:

Any OS can find files of a certain type with keywords in the filename, but it's good that your video player can too. Hopefully your files don't lose useful data if someone changes the filename.

With my previous pics and video cataloging... I needed to keep the catalog file with the files so the play and subject matter wasn't lost.
Almost as bad as having to update metadata..
the someone that changes the file name is me...
I would make another copy of the file and change the name details for a different start point...
I'd sooner have duplicates than to lose important files.. Backup backup backup...


You don't normally see people reinvent the wheel because they think the wheel rolls to smoothly. Welcome to the swamp...
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Re: Long FileNames the Greatest Feature

Posted 01 May 2019 - 07:32 AM

View PostArtificialSoldier, on 01 May 2019 - 01:33 AM, said:

Ah, you're just building a program for yourself to use. I see, that makes sense.


Sort of...
As a programmer I have always made good use of search apps to find code segments to fix and upgrade...

Then my video clips forced me to enhance the playback.

Having the "video highlight" segment automatically display using the name... Made it easier to show off.
Nothing is worse than trying to play a certain video segment to someone and the system stops and starts because of background processes .. Just like scrolling by pictures and missing IT.

Not using the LONG filenames for something more is shortsighted
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