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Make my own Computer. Any books? Anyone tried here?

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The more I learn about and read about computers architecture more I want it! I want make my own(small) machine! As soon as I finish my current reading\studies I want to dedicate all my free time making\learning something of that kind. To design and build it on my own from almost nothing, -sounds awesome! Did anyone tried to do something like that? (I don't want some cookie-cutter PC-building lego-like kit) I can't find any books specifically on that subject. Figured that I will start from few electronics text-book, as soon as I finish my architecture related books. But then...I don't know what next. Is that will be enough?

*Pardon my bad English please, I'm from old Europe-land.

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Posted 06 October 2020 - 12:48 AM

There is this things like Chisel and VHDL, maybe it is possible to "model" machine that I want without learning electronics. But it feels like cheating, its not a "physical thing".
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Posted 06 October 2020 - 01:47 AM

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To design and build it on my own from almost nothing

That depends on how far you want to go. Anything microelectronics would be a decent decision to buy, unless you want to build something along the Z4. What's remaining from there is mostly design and assembly for which you would find literature in the engineering departments.
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Posted 06 October 2020 - 05:01 AM

For a while I have been wanting to build either an 8 bit Apple clone (see below; but the video is made for entertainment & not so much a guide to be followed) or an IBM 5150 clone kit.


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Re: Make my own Computer. Any books? Anyone tried here?

Posted 06 October 2020 - 05:44 AM

View Postrandom Goose, on 06 October 2020 - 03:17 AM, said:

I want make my own(small) machine!

As in starting building everything up with NAND gate chips, register chips, RAM chips, and a clock? Or are you planning on getting a stock CPU and then building up from there?
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Posted 06 October 2020 - 07:20 AM

Oh no I'm not planning to go that far. A bit to hardcore, to inefficient. I want to run it not just stare on it. I like modern chips mcu\cpu\memory etc.
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Posted 06 October 2020 - 07:36 AM

Are you looking to build a PC from the usual commercial-off-the-shelf options (RAM, motherboard, CPU, powersupply, etc), or go with trying to make a virtual CPU?
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Posted 06 October 2020 - 08:05 AM

View Postmodi123_1, on 06 October 2020 - 07:36 AM, said:

trying to make a virtual CPU?

Yes, something like that, I think...
You see, I have an idea for an atypical von Neumann architecture, something a little different, I'm not sure if this (idea) is stupid or good, I didn't have enough time / research / information to determine. But in my humble brain it looks very shiny. So I'm not really sure where to start,- with the electronics and figure out rest on the way, or try to play with it / model it somehow before.
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Posted 06 October 2020 - 08:17 AM

Not exactly what you're looking for, but this exists. Looks like a fun project, actually.
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Posted 06 October 2020 - 08:18 AM

Ok.. so 'digital design and computer architecture' is the search terms to focus on. It's been too long and I can't remember what we used for CPU design in college, but it was a class project.

Example books:
https://www.amazon.c.../dp/0128000562/
https://hackaday.com...rst-cpu-design/

There are apps like 'cpu sim'
https://www.cs.colby...jskrien/CPUSim/
https://www.electron...s-using-cpu-sim

.. folk have done it in minecraft as well if that's a more amusing option.
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Posted 06 October 2020 - 08:29 AM

modi123_1 - Wow! thank you most kindly. I will be enjoying this.

ps.
jon.kiparsky - Altair 8800 Emulator Kit - that thing looks beautiful. and expensive. :)/>

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Posted 06 October 2020 - 08:53 AM

This book might also be interesting to you.
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Posted 06 October 2020 - 12:08 PM

View Postrandom Goose, on 06 October 2020 - 01:17 AM, said:

The more I learn about and read about computers architecture more I want it! I want make my own(small) machine! As soon as I finish my current reading\studies I want to dedicate all my free time making\learning something of that kind. To design and build it on my own from almost nothing, -sounds awesome! Did anyone tried to do something like that? (I don't want some cookie-cutter PC-building lego-like kit) I can't find any books specifically on that subject. Figured that I will start from few electronics text-book, as soon as I finish my architecture related books. But then...I don't know what next. Is that will be enough?

*Pardon my bad English please, I'm from old Europe-land.

check out this https://www.youtube....h?v=fCbAafKLqC8
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