[Nykc]

aj32, on 5 Feb, 2008 - 03:52 PM, said:

Well, if #include<wmx010>'s youtube vidios about the new Ubuntu are true, I might want to look into that! The reason I don't really like the Debian and Ubuntu distro's is probably because I have older versions, I think I'll have to download and try the newest version Ubuntu!

I tell ya what, Im using 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon and I love it.

[aj32]

Ubuntu Version 7.10 Download in progress!...

This post has been edited by aj32: 05 February 2008 - 02:04 PM

[Nykc]

aj32, on 5 Feb, 2008 - 04:04 PM, said:

Ubuntu Version 7.10 Download in progress!...

That my friend, is what we like to here!

-Once you go Linux...
You never go back! (is that how the saying goes?)

[aj32]

Ubuntu is installed and running!!!!!
!!!


Next, Solaris 10!

[Nykc]

aj32, on 5 Feb, 2008 - 06:39 PM, said:

Ubuntu is installed and running!!!!!
!!!


Next, Solaris 10!

Good to hear. I expect to see your favorite OS reflect Linux someday, instead of that Corporate monstrosity under your name.

[lollipop]

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Odin93, on 4 Feb, 2008 - 08:24 AM, said:

MorphiusFaydal, on 3 Feb, 2008 - 09:48 PM, said:

Odin93, on 3 Feb, 2008 - 10:10 PM, said:

I have fedora running under virtual pc on my computer and too be honest i dont really like it that much. Everything is way to overely complicated and some stuff doesnt even work. Also installing is horrible. Thats the only linux distribution ive used, so sorry if im not too much help.

Try something else. Most people have to try a couple distros before they find the one they like.

Ye i would have, only problem is i have dialup and now the file sizes of these linux distributions have gone up to around 500 mb and etc. So, it doesnt seem to logical to spend afew days downloading something i might not even like, but once i get high speed ill be sure to try out a few more, before forever shunning linux.

I've been using Linux for more than 4 years, and I can't ever remember a distro being less than the size of a full CD or more. When I was on dial-up, I used a download manager, and then I could keep downloading after my Internet inevitably bit me in the behind.

There actually are some very small linux distros - a little away from the mainstream linux scene, but very worth looking into. If you are after a truly lean linux install check-out DSL (previously 'Damn Small Linux', latterly renamed to 'Demi-Sized Linux .


Damn Small Linux Website

Damn Small Linux Wikipedia Entry.


DSL should fit into less than 50mb on your hard-drive, and has a time memory footprint like you wouldn't believe! Of course, there's a lot of stuff left out to get the small size! What I quite like about DSL though is that they have designed it to be easy to first install the tiny 50mb core system, and then gradually add to the system later.

Unlike some other small or server-use only distributions, it does come with a graphical desktop environment, albeit a clunky one that looks like something out of the early nineties! However it's functional and more inviting than a command line only system, which is what you often get with the very small/low-spec distros.

It also comes with pared-down, minimalist versions of all the software people commonly use, such web-browsers, word processors, and music players.

Once it is installed, you can can change a setting to enable the Debian apt-get system. This essentially turns it into a Debian system - you can then install anything you want from the Debian repository with only a line or two at the command prompt.



Here is a blurb about it from the website:

"DSL is a very versatile 50MB mini desktop oriented Linux distribution.

Damn Small is small enough and smart enough to do the following things:

* Boot from a business card CD as a live linux distribution (LiveCD)
* Boot from a USB pen drive
* Boot from within a host operating system (that's right, it can run *inside* Windows)
* Run very nicely from an IDE Compact Flash drive via a method we call "frugal install"
* Transform into a Debian OS with a traditional hard drive install
* Run light enough to power a 486DX with 16MB of Ram
* Run fully in RAM with as little as 128MB (you will be amazed at how fast your computer can be!)
* Modularly grow -- DSL is highly extendable without the need to customize
"

Using DSL, I was able to succesfully install a very nice linux setup onto an old, low=spec laptop which nothing else would install on (except windows 95, which I didn;t want!). After setting up the base system, I enabled the Debian repositories and installed the XFCE desktop environment - still minimalist, but a lot more modern than the one tat comes in the base system. I also installed a few other bits and pieces I commonly used, and voila, a working, fairly modern system.

Other distros were fdailing to install because there was not enough ram. They were trying to put too much stuff into memory during the install, and then crashing. DSL allowed me to get around this by installing thingsin steps, and just never installing any single apps with truly enourmous memory footprints such as kde (which I love, but it is undoubtedly a memory hog!)

There are also some other small linuxes such as puppy linux, although I have never tried any of them out.


Anyway, good luck with your install adventures!

[MorphiusFaydal]

Okay, let me rephrase that - With the exception of Damn Small Linux and Peanut Linux, I've never seen a distro that was less than a full CD ISO.

Okay; the Gentoo minimal install CD is only 56MB, and the Debian net-install is like... 24MB. But I don't think they'll work if you're on dial-up.. Or at least... Not very well.

[Nykc]

If someone is still sporting dial up, they might as well install windows 3.1

-- Anyone here ever use Open SuSE

This post has been edited by nykc: 06 February 2008 - 08:57 PM

[MorphiusFaydal]

nykc, on 6 Feb, 2008 - 09:54 PM, said:

If someone is still sporting dial up, they might as well install windows 3.1

-- Anyone here ever use Open SuSE

Tried it - wasn't too impressed. Actually, it was SuSE 9.1... Not even openSuSE. I should try it again. Throw it into VMWare and see what's up. Same with Fedora... Although I'll probably wait for for the v9 release on that.

[Nykc]

Not a huge fan of Fedora. Im ordering a new laptop from Dell preloaded with Ubuntu. So i am going to experiment with different distro's on this laptop.

[GWatt]

nykc, on 6 Feb, 2008 - 10:54 PM, said:

If someone is still sporting dial up, they might as well install windows 3.1

-- Anyone here ever use Open SuSE

Yes I have and it was slow as balls. Updating packages took for-EVAR. Yast is a nice little app, but very slow. I leik speed, btw.

[skaoth]

I've used several Linux disto's in the past to run my home server. This has been from slackware, gentoo, and Kubuntu. I've found that the distributions without a good package manager really got tiresome. I found myself doing more package maintance than anything else.

When Kubuntu came out it basically just worked. It was easy to setup, easy to maintain and easy to update to new versions. All in all I'd have to give my vote to Kubuntu. I use this over Ubuntu cuz I like KDE over Gnome.

[MorphiusFaydal]

skaoth, on 6 Feb, 2008 - 10:55 PM, said:

I've used several Linux disto's in the past to run my home server. This has been from slackware, gentoo, and Kubuntu. I've found that the distributions without a good package manager really got tiresome. I found myself doing more package maintance than anything else.

When Kubuntu came out it basically just worked. It was easy to setup, easy to maintain and easy to update to new versions. All in all I'd have to give my vote to Kubuntu. I use this over Ubuntu cuz I like KDE over Gnome.

I don't update my Gentoo server but once every few months... And I've next to nothing installed, so I don't get really anything in the way of package troubles.

If you're doing a server (that's not doing double duty as a workstation) try Ubuntu Server or Debian and install it without X. Administration over SSH is more than feasible (my server has had nothing more than 2 printers, a Cat-5e cable, and a power cable plugged since August).

[tgoshinski]

I'll second the Kubuntu recommendation - really depends on your favorite wm I suppose. I've also heard good things about Fluxbox on Xbuntu.

I started on somewhere around RedHat 6.x and didn't like how easy it was to get into RPM-hell. So I switched to FreeBSD for many years. After tiring of rebuilding everything from source all of the time, I decided to come back and give Linux another try and was pleasantly surprised when Kubuntu "just worked". Admittedly I don't have any fancy/exotic components in that box aside from the video card.

On a side note, my wife enjoys Sugar on our daughter's XO laptop.

[GWatt]

It's actually XFCE on Xubuntu. XFCE is pretty good. It takes up less resources than Gnome, or KDE, while providing about the same functionality, and still pretty.