[NeoGreen]

I have used Vista and in my opinion it still needs some work...i have found several issues with it especially when it goes to sleep mode or Hibernate... when you attempt to wake it up it freezes... I thought it was just my computer but nope it happened several times. I haven't tried to find a fix, but I know there is one out there.

[Nykc]

See that fat little penguin under my name???

Yeah, thats what I think of Vista. - I was a windows fanboy till it was released. Then I installed Ubuntu and my life has never been better.

[bhandari]

But how much hard Linux may try, it can't replace windows in common home/commerical use.

[1lacca]

Not yet

[GWatt]

bhandari, on 13 Feb, 2008 - 01:06 AM, said:

But how much hard Linux may try, it can't replace windows in common home/commerical use.

Depends what you define as home/commercial use. You can browse the internet, check email, type documents, and listen to music on Linux. That covers many people's needs. If you are talking about gaming, then no. Linux is not going to replace Windows until someone fixes xorg, and probably alsa too.

[bhandari]

I also mean the usability and adaptability. Windows is in our blood. Everything is related to it. I always get away from Linux because i have the habit of my computer and drives with in it (can't mount/unmount). Though in my office, i do use Linux for development because the project chose to be so (less cost, more efficient and all that stuff).

[Nykc]

Well considering my workplace just switched a couple of there servers over to Linux and I work in the financial sector. Dell is preinstalling Ubuntu on laptops also. It won't be long. The only reason the mainstream user does not use linux (when i say mainstream I mean typical home user who trolls myspace, yahoo messenger, reads emails and surfs the web with no real purpose) alot of them do not know of Linux. They here it and think I can't use that.

Those days are slowly coming to an end, and one day you will see a rise in Linux users for mainstream uses.

[bhandari]

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Those days are slowly coming to an end, and one day you will see a rise in Linux users for mainstream uses.

waiting eagrly for that. I always have a desire to use Linux. But you see there are some times when you need to execute exe's sent by friends so have to use windows.

[Nykc]

I always have access to a windows machine. Be it work, my desktop, or the local computer lab at school.

I waited 8 years before seeing the light.

I lost 8 good years.

[bhandari]

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I lost 8 good years.

Maybe you learnt to hate it in those 8 long years.

[ferrari12508]

bhandari, on 13 Feb, 2008 - 07:58 AM, said:

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Those days are slowly coming to an end, and one day you will see a rise in Linux users for mainstream uses.

waiting eagrly for that. I always have a desire to use Linux. But you see there are some times when you need to execute exe's sent by friends so have to use windows.

Ever heard of multibooting? its quite nice

[Nykc]

Could do that too..

[Tom9729]

GWatt, on 13 Feb, 2008 - 06:08 AM, said:

bhandari, on 13 Feb, 2008 - 01:06 AM, said:

But how much hard Linux may try, it can't replace windows in common home/commerical use.

Depends what you define as home/commercial use. You can browse the internet, check email, type documents, and listen to music on Linux. That covers many people's needs. If you are talking about gaming, then no. Linux is not going to replace Windows until someone fixes xorg, and probably alsa too.

What's wrong with xorg and alsa?

The reason Linux isn't "good for gaming" is that very few game companies make games for it, not because of any technical problems.

I have Linux versions of Quake IV, Doom 3, Unreal Tournament 2004, Tribes 2, and Quake 3. All of them run just as well, if not better, than they do on Windows.

[ferrari12508]

pwn'd

This post has been edited by ferrari12508: 14 February 2008 - 04:42 AM

[GWatt]

Tom9729, on 13 Feb, 2008 - 11:08 PM, said:

GWatt, on 13 Feb, 2008 - 06:08 AM, said:

bhandari, on 13 Feb, 2008 - 01:06 AM, said:

But how much hard Linux may try, it can't replace windows in common home/commerical use.

Depends what you define as home/commercial use. You can browse the internet, check email, type documents, and listen to music on Linux. That covers many people's needs. If you are talking about gaming, then no. Linux is not going to replace Windows until someone fixes xorg, and probably alsa too.

What's wrong with xorg and alsa?

The reason Linux isn't "good for gaming" is that very few game companies make games for it, not because of any technical problems.

I have Linux versions of Quake IV, Doom 3, Unreal Tournament 2004, Tribes 2, and Quake 3. All of them run just as well, if not better, than they do on Windows.

Actually my beef with alsa might have just been the computer I was using at the time. Every time I moved the mouse, I could hear an increase in hiss coming through the speakers. That could very easily have been hardware.

xorg. . .
It uses rasters as the fundamental unit. If it used vectors, as now any graphics card supports them, xorg would be much more efficient. When you use vectors, resizing windows, or text becomes much easier. Using rasters and trying to perform resize, operations becomes an exercise in masochism. Imagine trying to display a rotating cube. Since rectangles are always displayed as horizontal and vertical lines, you would have to use many tiny rectangles to generate a diagonal line, whereas a line can be along any diagonal. Now X hides this from developers so they can work with lines, so that from a development standpoint nothing would really change if X would switch to vectors as the fundamental unit. Performance and memory would increase dramatically.
Also, this is maybe just me, but I don't think that for running a desktop machine, you need to have the Xorg server and the Xorg client connect to each other over the loopback interace. That's right, the Xorg client goes to 127.0.0.1 and gets it's data from the Xorg server that way. You'd think if they were on the same machine, they could communicate through different means than lo.