[bhandari]

Hi moderators,

There isn't any section for topics related to web development in languages java/.net etc.

I think its not appropriate to put JSP servlets topics in web development.

Can I put JSP/Servlets related topics in Java section and is the same applicable to tutorials also??

[1lacca]

Yes, I think we already had some JSP questions in the Java forum (they are compiled to Java servlets anyway ).

[bhandari]

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Yes, I think we already had some JSP questions in the Java forum

what's the call on having different category for web development under java like:
Java
|____Core Java
|____JSP/Servlets
|____Struts etc.
|____Any other

[baavgai]

bhandari, on 11 Feb, 2008 - 09:51 AM, said:

what's the call on having different category for web development under java like:
Java
|____Core Java
|____JSP/Servlets
|____Struts etc.
|____Any other

I'd be careful there, Java has more than it's share of market names and therefore confusion. Basically, there's Applications, Applets, and Servlets. Everything beyond that is a hybrid. Even applets are just sandboxed applications.

JSP is servlets with a happy face, for instance. Struts is another wrapper for same? If you break the Java category up too much, people won't know where to ask, particularly when the fad of the moment goes cold. WAR files, good idea, that...

[bhandari]

I was giving some example. Basically I mean that not all applications are desktop based (not even in .Net) and I am coming up with web tutorials (other than HTML). Should I post those querie/posts/tutorials in Java Section or Web Developement or Something needs to be created for that??

[skyhawk133]

Post them in Java.

The web development forum is for more general questions.

[1lacca]

baavgai, on 11 Feb, 2008 - 04:16 PM, said:

bhandari, on 11 Feb, 2008 - 09:51 AM, said:

what's the call on having different category for web development under java like:
Java
|____Core Java
|____JSP/Servlets
|____Struts etc.
|____Any other

I'd be careful there, Java has more than it's share of market names and therefore confusion. Basically, there's Applications, Applets, and Servlets. Everything beyond that is a hybrid. Even applets are just sandboxed applications.

JSP is servlets with a happy face, for instance. Struts is another wrapper for same? If you break the Java category up too much, people won't know where to ask, particularly when the fad of the moment goes cold. WAR files, good idea, that...

I think the J2SE, J2EE, J2ME categories describe it the best. As you write, applets are applications, and they are just that. The SecurityManager is part of the J2SE, and giving it some default restrictions does not mean a new type of thing. (The HTML wrapper is more like a distribution method, like an installer, or like webstart)

The Java EE family is a framework, but the web and application containers give features that can be compared to the VM's own services (or as an extension of those)- persistence, load balancing, scaling, security, etc. All the other frameworks (Struts, JSF, Spring, you name it) build on this, so they are not a different category.

Finally J2ME is clearly different, it does have a slightly different API, and even the VM is different (unlike from J2EE where the container runs in a J2SE VM).

Right now neither J2EE nor J2ME topics have such traffic that they would need a separate forum, but this might change of course.

[bhandari]

one more query, though not related to this discussion but not worth starting a new topic.

On each page here on DIC, there is a string like on this page i can see 15cf9 and similarly one charater at the bottom (0 on this page at this time).

Is it related to ads or what?

[skyhawk133]

bhandari, on 11 Feb, 2008 - 08:56 AM, said:

one more query, though not related to this discussion but not worth starting a new topic.

On each page here on DIC, there is a string like on this page i can see 15cf9 and similarly one charater at the bottom (0 on this page at this time).

Is it related to ads or what?

Could be. I've only seen it a couple times and it's no where in any of my code (that I'm aware of)