[capty99]

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If only it were as simple as in the days of the Roman Empire where the top dog could allow a man to live or die (or in this case a marketing idea) I guess the consumers words will have to decide in the long run what happens to Lindows.com and its yet-to-be-released Lindows Operating System.

Michael Robertson (pictured left) has gone way beyond decency this time in my humble opinion. What started out as the alternative to Windows (Linux running an advanced WINE manager that allows users to run Windows applications like Microsoft Office) has now turned into a profitable source of income for the main man behind the operation, Mr Robertson.

I wasn't blinded by the fact that the code that will go on sale for an estimated $99 is actually Open Source and free to download in one of many, many distributions that are already quite far ahead at a Windows Application Environment, or to the fact that Click 'n Run despite offering many free applications is the driving force behind Lindows ability to exist. The applications that will be sold to its customers and can be run from Lindows are an important factor and the sole reason that Click 'n Run will be the only such choice within this OS effectively making its version of Windows Update a paid area that will alienate users rather than encourage them to go online for updates. Who wants to go online to be constantly be asked to buy something from the host Operating System? I know I wouldn't..

Anyway the real reason for this post is because of the outrageous idea that they have come up with this time. The PR on Lindows / Windows name (which is still quite wrong IMHO) wasn't enough, so now they are ripping off Mac users and enthusiasts all over the world by copying the same basic site design from www.apple.com.

I ask you, why do we need Lindows if the only thing they can do is take our money, steal other successful companies ideas blatantly not even just a little bit, this is kick in the balls time for Microsoft and Apple and we the consumers will lose because people like Michael Robertson destroy our faith in innovative companies who really do bring something to the market. Lindows is leech, sorry.. I said it.. but this is proof.

- http://www.neowin.net/

www.lindows.com .... the site. haha.

[GoatIronMaidn]

[/Homer Simpson Voice] Hmm, selling something that is free...and stealing another site's web design to market it...this just might work![/Homer Simpson Voice]

[optimus]

rofl. I think having that story on the lindows site just proves the guy right in saying that they are morons

[SlashRaid]

Though I agree that the site is indeed pushing it.... The only thing comparable is the tabs.

Lindows will have to release the source for the OS.

The play on the Windows name is pure business smarts.

The guy who runs Neowin is a borderline MS Whore if not full fledged.

"The Click-N-Run Warehouse, currently accessible to Lindows.com Insiders, holds hundreds of applications and programs, all free to Insiders running LindowsOS." From the Lindows site... Your paying for the ability to download from there collection of programs.... Not the programs themselves you fucking idiot!

Section 1 of the GPL You may copy and distribute verbatim copies of the Program's source code as you receive it, in any medium, provided that you conspicuously and appropriately publish on each copy an appropriate copyright notice and disclaimer of warranty; keep intact all the notices that refer to this License and to the absence of any warranty; and give any other recipients of the Program a copy of this License along with the Program.

You may charge a fee for the physical act of transferring a copy, and you may at your option offer warranty protection in exchange for a fee.

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Mandrake 8.2 ProSuite Edition - $149.00
Redhat Pro - $199.95
RedHat Personal - $59.95
Red Hat Linux Advanced Server V2.1 - Standard Edition - $1499.00
Red Hat Linux Advanced Server V2.1 - Premium Edition - $2499.00
Slackware Linux 8.1 - $39.95
Yellow Dog Linux 2.3 With Installation Support: $59.95
Yellow Dog Linux 2.3 Without Installation Support: $29.95
Phat Linux - $25.00
Lycoris Desktop/LX - $29.95
Lycoris Desktop/LX Deluxe - $39.95
Caledra OpenLinux Workstation 3.1.1 - $99.00
Caledra OpenLinux Server 3.1.1 - $249.00
Caledra OpenLinux 64 3.1 - $599.00
SuSE Linux Professional 8.0 - $79.95
SuSE Linux Personal 8.0 - $39.95
SuSE Linux Update 8.0 - $49.95
SuSE Linux 7.3 PowerPC Edition - $79.95
SuSE Linux Enterprise Server 7 for IA-32 - $599.95
FreeBSD 4.6 - $29.95
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Kondara MNU/Linux Server 2000 - $149.95
Kondara MNU/Linux 2000 - $44.95
TurboLinux Server 6.0 - $199.95
TurboLinux Workstation Pro 6.1 - $79.95
Trustix Secure Linux 1.2 - $39.00

Though I don't like Lindows per say, the business model and waht it's based around are interesting to me. I have concerns of other conflicts with the GPL and LindowsOS License that I am sure will end up in court down the road. The basis for Neowin's "thumbs down" review is MS biased and of the mark. So why is Lindows pushing the shady side of software companies.... IMHO.

• The LindowsOS violates other sections of the GPL, but I'm no lawyer.
  
• The default install is to /root with no mention of the dangers of running Linux as /root.

[Null and Void]

SlashRaid, on Jul 30 2002, 07:54 AM, said:

• The default install is to /root with no mention of the dangers of running Linux as /root.

If it wasn't for that one 'feature', I could probably deal with Lindows. But, even if they fix it, I wouldn't run Lindows or tell people to run Lindows, because they charge for what Debian (Lindows is Debian based) and other distro's and the software authors give away for free. If they added the $90 cost to the boxed copy, people would complain anyway, but it would seem more reasonable.