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How can you explain this other than what it is?

Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:27 PM

Personally I dont believe in any religion that has this as part of their teachings. Im more of a Science gal than a Gal of Faith. This being said, the reason I became so fascinated with this is that it is a continuing study done at the University of Virginia (shitty in Sports Program but a really good University). This is just a small piece describing some of it:

In many parts of the world, some young children, usually between the ages of 2 and 5, speak about a previous life they claim to have lived. At the same time they often show behavior, such as a phobia, that is unusual in their family and/or not explained by any current life events but that seems concordant with the child's statements about a previous life. In many cases of this type the child's statements have been shown to correspond accurately to facts in the life and death of a deceased person; in many of these cases the families concerned have had no contact before the case developed. Some of the children have birthmarks and birth defects that correspond to wounds or other marks on the deceased person whose life a child remembers. In numerous cases postmortem reports have confirmed these correspondences. Older children may retain these apparent memories, but generally they seem to fade around the age of 7 .

The Division staff have been investigating these cases since 1961 and have published numerous articles and books about them. There is also a list of books on reincarnation which includes one book about Dr. Stevenson's work by an editor at the Washington Post. The young subjects of these cases have been found most readily in certain parts of the world, such as South Asia. They are, however, also found in other areas of the world, and the Division has studied many cases in Europe and North America. We are interested in hearing about cases with any of the elements discussed here. See Contacting Us. If you are a parent seeking advice about your child who seems to remember a previous life then see Advice to Parents.


Pulled from: http://www.healthsys..._types.cfm#CORT

The main reason this caught my attention so much after doing research was:

The number of children they have studied.
The fact they are so specific in their memories including names, locations, events, etc etc.
That the memories where proven and that there is no way for them(kids) to have known the information.
They are kids.
The study is done in a very respectable University.


I find this completely fascinating and very hopeful. I cant pretend to know what causes this "return" to happen. Scientifically matter cant be created or destroyed so wouldn't this apply to what people call their "soul"? I do believe that each life experience is another journey to try and perfect one's "soul". That is an amazing thought in my opinion. We are hoping to one day reach a "souls" perfection. It gives us all hope of redemption.

Just something of substance. Maybe it will stir some debate :)

Isabella Siena

"I did not begin when I was born, nor when I was conceived. I have been growing, developing, through incalculable myriads of millenniums. All my previous selves have their voices, echoes, promptings in me. Oh, incalculable times again shall I be born." óJack London

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Re: How can you explain this other than what it is?

Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:30 PM

Wow, pretty cool study. I haven't heard of anything like that before. Really neat but also really spooky!
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Re: How can you explain this other than what it is?

Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:34 PM

& why did we post this to Java...?

** Moved to the lounge **
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Re: How can you explain this other than what it is?

Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:39 PM

View Postno2pencil, on 29 Oct, 2008 - 08:34 PM, said:

& why did we post this to Java...?

** Moved to the lounge **

Well I was hoping someone could code some type of answer out for me...a bit of a challenge...
or
I was trying to pull in some newbies...
actually I just fucked up
my fault!
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:52 PM

pass me your weed!
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Re: How can you explain this other than what it is?

Posted 29 October 2008 - 09:00 PM

View PostKYA, on 29 Oct, 2008 - 08:52 PM, said:

pass me your weed!

*passes him her bowl* ;)
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 09:21 PM

Fake.
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 11:20 PM

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 11:29 PM

Attention whoring.
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Re: How can you explain this other than what it is?

Posted 30 October 2008 - 05:06 AM

View Postabsynthe, on 29 Oct, 2008 - 08:27 PM, said:

...Im more of a Science gal than a Gal of Faith...It gives us all hope of redemption.

Isn't this contradictory. Redemption? From what do we need to be redeemed if you are not talking in the sense of "from our fate as sinners".
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Re: How can you explain this other than what it is?

Posted 30 October 2008 - 05:09 AM

View PostWolfCoder, on 29 Oct, 2008 - 11:29 PM, said:

Attention whoring.


More so:

narcissistic: Narcissism is the pattern of characteristics and behaviors which
involve infatuation and obsession with one's self to the exclusion of
others and the egotistic and ruthless pursuit of one's gratification,
dominance and ambition. In everyday use outside the field of
psychology, the word generally refers to people who just are
inordinately fond of themselves, without the pathological
connotations

smug, self-absorbed, vaunting, ostentatious, pompus, egomaniac, attention maniac, attention lover, flattery seeker, flattery lover

just to further expand your vocabulary, since thats twice I've heard that from you

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View Postabsynthe, on 29 Oct, 2008 - 08:27 PM, said:

...Im more of a Science gal than a Gal of Faith...It gives us all hope of redemption.

Isn't this contradictory. Redemption? From what do we need to be redeemed if you are not talking in the sense of "from our fate as sinners".



I was just thinking from the point of all the screw ups and mistakes we make along the way..
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Re: How can you explain this other than what it is?

Posted 30 October 2008 - 05:13 AM

Oh, well mistakes are an essential part of the learning process...I don't feel the need to be redeemed therefore ;)
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Posted 30 October 2008 - 05:17 AM

That's very true :)
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Re: How can you explain this other than what it is?

Posted 30 October 2008 - 05:21 AM

I'd tend to agree...mistakes, as well as successes, all contribute to who we become in the end. Are there some lessons I wish I could have learned in a manner less difficult that I did? Yup...but I am happy with the person I am today. I'm not saying I do not have regrets, but I don't think I feel the need to be redeemed. I suppose that comes from my approach of 'what's done is done, let's move forward.'

And let's try to keep this thread on topic.
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Re: How can you explain this other than what it is?

Posted 30 October 2008 - 05:33 AM

I see dead people.
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