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Posted 21 December 2008 - 02:08 PM

i want to burn a cd with xp but i want to change something for example firs i want to change bootscreen, and when sameone install this cd he can see this bootscreen. How can i do this
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Posted 21 December 2008 - 03:20 PM

You cannot create modified versions of Microsoft® Windows® and distribute them. This is the answer to your question. The copy you purchased is only licensed to you.
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Posted 21 December 2008 - 03:22 PM

If i could jump on this topic and hijack it for a moment:

My parent's computer has Windows XP. They bought a Compaq POS several years ago. I cannot find (if there was even one at all) the windows install CD. I do have the product key and that shiny sticker. Is there a a way to get a new disk in case I want to get them a new HD or build them a new computer without licensing a new copy of windows?

I'm sure there is, but i got damn tired of searching the microsoft support site after 10-20 minutes
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Posted 21 December 2008 - 03:33 PM

Why not just call Microsoft Support? As far as I know, the product key is the thing that matters most. So basically, you can try requesting a new media (of course, if Microsoft® offers this) and use the old key. But, most likely the copy licensed to you is a OEM release, and it is supposed to work only on specific hardware, so installing it on another computer is not allowed.

Also, this may help:
http://support.micro....com/kb/310994/

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Re: Windows

Posted 21 December 2008 - 03:37 PM

View PostKYA, on 21 Dec, 2008 - 02:22 PM, said:

If i could jump on this topic and hijack it for a moment:

My parent's computer has Windows XP. They bought a Compaq POS several years ago. I cannot find (if there was even one at all) the windows install CD. I do have the product key and that shiny sticker. Is there a a way to get a new disk in case I want to get them a new HD or build them a new computer without licensing a new copy of windows?

I'm sure there is, but i got damn tired of searching the microsoft support site after 10-20 minutes



On the root of the drive of this laptop is there by any chance an I386 folder if there is it is highly likely that you could make your own windows disk from this.

You will have to do a few things to make sure it's bootable and that but it's pretty easy once you know how!!

EDIT: Correction do you, on any OEM computer (any computer purchased from a manufacturer such as compaq, dell, hp), have an I386 folder on the root of any of the hard drives not necessarily just the C. All the media will accept the same license keys but may have the wrong logo in System Properties (although again that can be removed). And it wouldn't take anything illegal to create your own disks or remove the oem branding, in case your thinking otherwise.

View Postsajmir, on 21 Dec, 2008 - 01:08 PM, said:

i want to burn a cd with xp but i want to change something for example firs i want to change bootscreen, and when sameone install this cd he can see this bootscreen. How can i do this


Despite the fact it is illegal, you would need to replace the bootscreen on the disk. I am assuming you would be providing an alternate NTOSKRNL.exe file. If you so you would need to use makecab to make it a NTOSKRNL.ex_ compressed file and replace the existing one in the I386 folder on your CD.

However please be aware there is a different bootscreen/kernel file for every hal which will add complications. For the simple reason of legality I am not going to go into further detail.

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Posted 21 December 2008 - 04:06 PM

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And it wouldn't take anything illegal to create your own disks or remove the oem branding, in case your thinking otherwise.


Actually, a OEM license is tied to the hardware (the motherboard) of the computer, and it can only be installed on one specific machine, made by a specific manufacturer. There is a different talk, if that is a retail version, which can be used on any machine (with the condition that only one copy is installed).

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Re: Windows

Posted 21 December 2008 - 04:27 PM

View PostCore, on 21 Dec, 2008 - 03:06 PM, said:

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And it wouldn't take anything illegal to create your own disks or remove the oem branding, in case your thinking otherwise.


Actually, a OEM license is tied to the hardware (the motherboard) of the computer, and it can only be installed on one specific machine, made by a specific manufacturer. There is a different talk, if that is a retail version, which can be used on any machine (with the condition that only one copy is installed).



The media itself used to install an OEM license is completely generic except for OEMINFO.IN_, OEMINFO.BM_ and the OOBE (out of the box experience) which are the files responsible for putting a logo and information in your system properties and the extra license agreement you tend to enter into with the system manufacturer on the initial setup screen you see as the end user where you would add users etc (the out of the box experience)

So a plain installation media from Dell, HP or any other manufacturer barring perhaps them and the OOBE (out of the box experience) files are identical. OEM media are essentially volume license media but the license code assigned for OEM's require activation whilst regular volume license key's do not.

All retail editions of Windows require activation and will not accept volume license or OEM license keys.

Only restore disks (e.g. a custom restore disk which actually restores images rather than performing a proper windows installation) will be locked to an ident on the motherboard. Restore disks have nothing to do with Microsoft and are not technically official Microsoft media. Restore disks will always also put an I386 folder on the root of your system drive so you can do things like install IIS without needing an original Windows disk. I am merely suggesting you recreate the disk from these files to create an albeit replica official media. Note that in the UK (as long as you don't distribute it) this is legal as your technically making a backup copy.

I did actually once get into an OEM argument with Microsoft and in the end they replaced their OEM license with a free 'courtesy' copy of Windows XP Home retail...lol
EDIT: I argued that whilst the side of my computer has the official media sticker on and the other motherboard had broken 1 day out of warranty it was the same computer. I got a default response first but wouldn't settle for it and they asked me to return my restore disks for the retail version.

EDIT2 So to respond in a more clear way, yes it is tied to the motherboard but in theory no matter what OEM media you use as long as you use the provided key on the case you are within your rights of the EULA.

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Re: Windows

Posted 14 January 2009 - 06:01 AM

Moved to computer suppport
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