[jaredigital]

so, i've been thinking of building a PC. been doing my "research" homework and all that jazz. but let's face it: all those numbers and stuff associated with mobos, processors, AGP, blah blah blah is giving me a headache.

i've got a lot of the easy stuff picked out. ("oooh! that case is purty! i'll buy that!") case, cards, and that stuff is in the bag. mobos and processors are a foreign language to me, no matter how much i read. so, if anyone has insight into a plaec to get info on what all goes into a mobo, that'd be cool. or better yet just post it here. i know i want a P4 (sloth is cringing), and i've heard that Asus have good boards, but basically i figure that with my luck i'll buy 2 incompatable parts. like, i'll be trying to fit my processor into the mobo and be pissed off when it doesn't fit.

more fun questions to come!

[iamcenz]

dude if your gunna go with a P4 i would go with go witht he Intel PEBT2, my friend uses it all the time, never ran into a problem with it. i say you go with AMD, it cheaper (price wise) and still competes with Intel.

[iamcenz]

oh i figured you would like a site where you can buy parts. http://www.compworldusa.com that is a local store i used to work at, thats where i get all my parts, they have good prices too, i think...

[supersloth]

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FOXCONN SUPER CASE MID TOWER CASE ATX3400-P4 ***AMD Listed 300W Power Supply***
***INTEL Approved Chassis*** OEM
Specifications:
Dimension (DxWxH) 18 x 7.75 x 16.25 Inches
Drive Bays 3 + 2 + 1
Motherboard ATX, MICRO ATX
Expansion Slots 7 Full Size
Switching Power Supply ATX12V 300W
AMD Listed
Cooling Fan Rear Included
Ideal for P3, P4 & AMD System
Spacious Internal Space
High Efficiency Power Supply
Excellent Cooling more info>
N82E16811154004 
$32.00

$32.00
CD/DVD Burners (RW Drives)
  Lite On 52x32x52x Beige Color CDRW Drive LTR-52327S - OEM
SMART-BURN avoiding Buffer Under Run error, Automatically adjusting writing strategy & running OPC to provide the best burning quality
Specifications:
Speed: Writing 52X, Rewriting 32X, Reading: 52X (52x32x52)
Interface: ATAPI/E-IDE
Supported Media: CD, CD-R & CD-RW discs (upto 99 min)
Buffer: 2mb
Access Time: 80ms (typical)
OS Support: 95 / 98 / NT / ME / XP / 2000 more info>
N82E16827106199 
$43.99

$43.99
CD/DVD ROM Drives
  LITE-ON XJ-HD166S 16X DVD ROM Drive - OEM48X CD-ROM Access all format DVD-ROM/R/RW ,CD-ROM/R/RW title & disc

OEM Barebone No Cables or sofware included more info>
N82E16827131112 
$33.99

$33.99
Fans, Heatsinks (Case, CPU, Chipset)
  Thermaltake VOLCANO 9 CoolMod, Copper base inserted, SMART & SILENT. Retail. For AMD Athlon XP up to 2800+ and Intel Socket 370 & AMD Socket 462.
Specifications:
Supported Socket type: 370 and Socket A/462
80x80x25 mm fan. Heat sink 80x80mm & 77.3mm tall.
Air Flow: 20.55 CFM at 1300rpm & 75.7 CFM at 4800rpm. Instructions for Installation MUST be followed correctly. Mfr's P/N: A1455 more info>
N82E16835106019 
$24.99

$24.99
Floppy Drives
  SONY 1.44MB 3.5 INCH INTERNAL FDD DRIVE - OEM
Specifications:
Size: 3.5 Inch 1.44MB High Density
Model: MPF920-Z
Model Highlights:
Compatible with 720 KB and 1.44 MB 3.5-inch Floppy Disks
Ideal for replacing older floppy drive, or adding a second drive
Standard 34-pin floppy drive interface for easy installation
Legendary quality from Sony - the inventory of the 3.5-inch floppy more info>
N82E16821103109 
$8.00

$8.00
Hard Drives
  WD WESTERN DIGITAL EIDE HARD DRIVE 40GB 7200RPM MODEL # WD400BB -CAVIAR OEM, DRIVE ONLY
Specifications:
Size: 40 Gigabytes
Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA100
Seek time: 8.9ms
RPM:7200
Cache 2MB
OEM(Drive alone) 1 Year Manufacturer Warranty more info>
N82E16822140118 
$63.50

$63.50
Memory (System Memory)
  Crucial Micron 512MB 64x64 PC2100 DDR RAM, 184-Pin, CL=2.5-Unbuffered 2.5V, 6-Layers
CT6464Z265 Requires DDR supported Motherboard - Lifetime Warranty. more info>
N82E16820145005 
$88.00

$88.00
Motherboards - AMD
  Asus Motherboard for AMD Processors Model A7V600 Retail
Specifications:
Supported CPU:Socket A for AMD Athlon XP/Athlon / Duron Thoroughbred/ Barton Core Support
Chipset:VIA KT600 + VIA VT8237
FSB: 400/333/266/200MHz
RAM:3 x 184-pin DIMM PC2100/2700 or dual PC 3200 Max 3GB
IDE: 2 x UltraDMA 133/100 up to 4 devices
RAID: 2 x Serial ATA with RAID 0, 1 function
Slots:1 x AGP 8X, 6 x PCI, 1 x ASUS Proprietary WIFI Wireless Lan Connector
Ports:2xPS2,1xLPT,1xCOM,4xUSB,1xLAN, and Audio Ports
Onboard Audio:ADI AD1980 SoundMAX 6-channel
Onboard LAN:3Com 3C940 1000 Mbps Ethernet more info>
N82E16813131470 
$91.99

$91.99
Processors
  AMD ATHLON XP 2600 /333 FSB PROCESSOR CPU- OEM
Specifications:
CPU: 2.08 GHz
Type: XP 2600 Thoroughbred
Cache: 256K
BUS: 333MHz
Socket A
OEM (Processor Only)
more info>
N82E16819103349 
$100.00

$100.00
Video Cards
  ATI OEM RADEON 9000 Atlantis 64mb DDR DVI/CRT/TV out, BULK
Features:
Powered By ATI, Produced by Sapphire
Graphics Controller RADEON 9000 graphics processing unit (GPU)
Memory Configuration- 64/MB DDR, 128-bit memory.
Maximium memory Interface :9.6GB/s with 200MHZ DDR.
Connector - Standard DVI (Flat Panel Display) connector
15-pin VGA connector S-Video connector
Bus Interface - AGP2X/4X
Operating Systems Support
Windows 98SE, Windows Me, Windows 2000, Windows XP Powered by ATI Manufactured by Sapphire more info>

im building that one, as we speak $568.46 with shipping.

[iamcenz]

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Memory (System Memory)
  Crucial Micron 512MB 64x64 PC2100 DDR RAM, 184-Pin, CL=2.5-Unbuffered 2.5V, 6-Layers
CT6464Z265 Requires DDR supported Motherboard - Lifetime Warranty. more info>
N82E16820145005 
$88.00

dude whats the point of getting a chip and mobo that handels 333fsb when your memory is only 266. get ddr pc2700 then your system will be all 333fsb

[jaredigital]

sloth, got links to any/all of that gear? or is it all on NewEgg?

[iamcenz]

here is a quick system i threw together, its a AMD system,
Enermax Black Case w/window w/neon - $75
AMD Athlon XP 2600+ - $106
A-Bit KD7333A (motherboard) -$87
512MB DDR PC2700 - $65
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy XGamer - $85
Asus GForce 4 Ti | 4200 w/ TV Out - $136
Standard Floppy Drive - $8
Western Digital 80 gig 7200rpm Hard Drive. -$91

Total - $653.00

[Jbssfelix]

BluntedbyNature, on Aug 2 2003, 11:37 AM, said:

here is a quick system i threw together, its a AMD system,
Enermax Black Case w/window w/neon - $75
AMD Athlon XP 2600+ - $106
A-Bit KD7333A (motherboard) -$87
512MB DDR PC2700 - $65
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy XGamer - $85
Asus GForce 4 Ti | 4200 w/ TV Out - $136
Standard Floppy Drive - $8
Western Digital 80 gig 7200rpm Hard Drive. -$91

Total - $653.00

u really need not pay $8.00 for a floppy....there are freebies everywhere...maybe...'less the floppy has officially gone extinct.

[iamcenz]

yeah, im sure he can use the floppy out of the system he has now. BUT i was just putting everything you need in a system

[objekt404]

Jbssfelix, on Aug 2 2003, 06:58 PM, said:

u really need not pay $8.00 for a floppy....there are freebies everywhere...maybe...'less the floppy has officially gone extinct.

You'd be amazed at the amount of 'low consumer' end equip. that still comes w/a floppy for drivers. YES, you could just d/l them on another system & burn them. Still, it's pretty fsckin' wasteful to burn 1.44mB on a 650mB disc just for a few drivers.

to make it short: Leave the CD-R, take the floppy...

[supersloth]

Rockstar Hobo, on Aug 2 2003, 09:31 AM, said:

sloth, got links to any/all of that gear? or is it all on NewEgg?

all new egg.

thanks bbn, i wouldnt have caught that otherwise.


and get a floppy, its not always needed, but its worth the 8 bucks thats for sure. in the last 3 months ive only used it as a linux boot disk, but that was more than worth it.

[MarkoDaGeek]

check out http://compgeeks.com and http://directron.com , directron has the cheapist case prices ive ever seen , ive gotten 2 cases from them , both perfect, compgeeks always has good mobo deals and deals on odds and ends ... check 'em out.

[megamu]

http://secure.newegg...R.asp?ID=357244

2.4Ghz P4 w/ HyperThreading
800Mhz FSB
1GB PC3200 (400Mhz) Dual DDR-Ram
USB 2.0
Firewire
Dual 17" LCD Monitors
ATI RADEON 9600 PRO (to power the crap out of those dual monitors)
48x CD / 24x CDRW / 48x CDR / 16x DVD Combo drive
2x80GB SerialATA
Cordless MX (with the funky mouse dockstation/reciever)

Buy me one too while your at it

Sure you could crop some things:
you might not need that much ram
...or HDD space
...or dual monitors
...or wireless keys and mouse


You notice I didn't add a floppy OR card-reader thing. This is because the second HDD takes up the room for one of these. Although I must admit those card readers are sooo handy (especially if you can get one that will boot from bios! then you would never need a floppy!)


-Lee

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[jaredigital]

okay, this is what i've come up with so far. if you see any red flags, i'd like to know. basically, i'm looking to build a fast system for gaming and mutlimedia (audio, 3D). i need lots of RAM, and a fast processor. the only thing i'm fuzzy on is the mobo and processor (compatability, ability to support all my gear). i want this setup to last a good while.

Lian-Li Quiet PC Case
http://www.thinkgeek...ods/cases/6132/
$179.99

Zalman Silent 400W Power Supply
http://www.thinkgeek...mods/cases/5e4c
$99.99

ATI RADEON 9600 PRO 128MB 8X AGP DVI/TV RETAIL
http://www.newegg.com
Specifications:
Chipset:ATI RADEON 9600 PRO
Memory:128MB of double data rate SDRAM
Bus:AGP 4X (1.5V), 8X (0.8v) or Universal AGP 3.0 bus configuration (4X/8X).
Operating Systems Support: Windows® XP Windows® 2000 Windows® Me
4 parallel rendering pipelines
2 parallel geometry engines
Technology Features: SMARTSHADER™ 2.0, SMOOTHVISION™ 2.1, HYPER Z™ III+ TRUFORM™ 2.0 and VIDEOSHADER™
Max Res: 2048x1536 60HZ at 16.7M Colors
Ports:VGA + DVI + S-Video
$178.00

SoundBlaster Audigy 2
http://www.thinkgeek...g/avcards/5bab/
$119.99

Asus P4P800 Mobo
http://www.newegg.com/
ASUS Motherboard for Intel Pentium 4 / Celeron Processors, 800Mhz FSB Model# P4P800 Retail
Specifications:
Supported CPU:P478 Pentium 4 / Celeron
Chipset: 865PE + ICH5R
FSB:800/533/400 MHz
RAM:2 Channel DDR400/333/266 Support Max 4GB
IDE:Dual Ultra DMA ATA100/66 up to 4 Devices
RAID: RAID 0 Support on SATA Channels
Slots:1x AGP (8X) 5x PCI
Ports:2xPS2, 1xCOM,1xLPT,1x Audio, 1xLAN, 8xUSB20
Onboard Audio:AD 1985 6 Channel Codec
Onboard LAN:3COM Gigabit LAN 1000/100/10 802.11b
Onboard SATA: Dual Channel Serial ATA up to 150MBs
$118.00

[iamcenz]

ok i worked at a computer store as a sales rep a year ago. i dont know how good their new boards are, but a year ago and before that, they were really shitty. like we would sell 20 a month at least 3 would come back completly fucked. but like i said they could have fixed that, i said in my other post, that i know that the intel mobo works great. my friend uses that board for when he build servers for companys. also im not a fan of ATI i had nothign but bad luck with them. i know alot of people who love them so i would go with a geforce 4