[Hyper]

'Sup Linux?

[Nykc]

What is wrong with Linux?

[Hyper]

What's not wrong with Linux?

[Nykc]

Answering a question with another does not validate your argument.

Please explain to us Linux users what is wrong with Linux.

edit - here: sudo explain what is wrong with Linux

This post has been edited by Nykc: 10 March 2009 - 07:00 AM

[Hyper]

Absolutely nothing is wrong with Linux. Perhaps you put emphasis on the wrong word within:
"What's not wrong with Linux?"

[thehat]

IE is still massively popular, because outside for the tech community, very few people are aware that other browsers exist. A little part of me dies every time someone refers to the IE icon as 'the internet', and I am now about 65% zombie.

Personally I use FF because there are so many useful extensions that other browsers don't have. Firebug, Fireshot, Web Dev Toolbar, AdBlock and GooglePreview being my favourites.

[NickDMax]

Why I dislike IE... well I am working on a simple little AJAX based utility page. Developed in FF and works great on FF/Opera/Safari -- does not work in IE. Now it ALMOST works in IE -- The AJAX part works great -- its in updating the page that things get all screwy. Not a big problem but irritating.

Most of the other browsers are pretty standard. If it works in one, chances are it will work about the same in the others. But IE HAS to be different.

If you develop a web app using IE -- then you are bound to accidentally use features not in the other browsers. But if you use FF (and why wouldn't you as it currently has the best tools esp for AJAX debugging) then there is a good chance of it working on all the browsers with the occasional tweak needed for IE.

[PsychoCoder]

WolfCoder, on 9 Mar, 2009 - 12:18 PM, said:

Something's wrong with your system as FireFox rarely crashes ever for me, and I do all sorts of strange things with it.

Nothing wrong with my system at all (it's got more power than it knows what to do with). I'm not the only one with this issue, it has happened to my wife, my son, and several others that I know in real life as well

[pr4y]

Core, on 9 Mar, 2009 - 08:08 PM, said:

Someone who used Internet Explorer for a pretty long time will defend it, same applies to any other user of any other browser.

Yeah, I used internet explorer, back in what... '97? Since you work for Microsoft, is there a section in your contract that states you must support / bandwagon / soapbox all Microsoft products? I just find it strange that a developer of your calibur honestly supports IE.

Anybody who knows anything about web browsing and coding standards knows why IE is a P.O.S.


I have a friend that I'd like to mention. This particular friend knows absolutely JACK about computers. After 3 years of trying to convince him that 95% of his problems with the internet were IE related, he switched to Firefox. Now that I've opened his eyes to the beauty of a browser that meets web standards, hes gone off on his own adventure and discovered "Opera".

Can anyone tell me the difference between "Opera" and Firefox? The only obvious reason that my friend switched from FF to Opera is the fact that Opera has a built in flashy "Speed Dial" feature of which he can 1 click to all of his 9 favorite porn sites. Firefox has this plugin freely available in the extention marketplace, but still my friend still switches to Opera.

People that aren't necessarily "tech-savvy" are more inclined to stick with what they know, or with what comes with the most useless features.

Firefox offers what every other browser in existence offers, but most of it isn't built in. Firefox is lightweight, customizable, and standardized.



My point here is:

Those who don't know, use IE.
Those who can't learn, use Opera. (Due to flashy, unnecessary, built in addons)
Those who understand... use Firefox.

This post has been edited by pr4y: 10 March 2009 - 09:52 AM

[Nykc]

I actually found Opera to be faster and more reliable lately than Firefox. Firefox has been crashing a lot on me lately.

I understand, I sure as hell can learn, I still use FF as well. But I am really loving me some Opera.

[Hyper]

PsychoCoder, on 10 Mar, 2009 - 08:36 AM, said:

that I know in real life as well

Are you implying this is fake life? Because all life is real life (even artificial life is real life).
In person and not in person is the proper way to refer to it. Actors and Characters are people, although, for little kids, we might refer to movie actors/actresses or TV show actors/actresses as "not real."

[pr4y]

^ Off topic much? Why do you point out small mistakes in people's grammar / sentences? There is really no need for it, unless they brutally murdered the english language... (Which he didn't)

</off topic>
<opinion>

Internet explorer + it's fanboys are lame.
</opinion>

This post has been edited by pr4y: 10 March 2009 - 10:42 AM

[PsychoCoder]

All philosophical arguments aside, yes this is "fake" life

[thehat]

PsychoCoder, on 10 Mar, 2009 - 04:36 PM, said:

WolfCoder, on 9 Mar, 2009 - 12:18 PM, said:

Something's wrong with your system as FireFox rarely crashes ever for me, and I do all sorts of strange things with it.

Nothing wrong with my system at all (it's got more power than it knows what to do with). I'm not the only one with this issue, it has happened to my wife, my son, and several others that I know in real life as well

FF crashes occasionally for me, but today it's been falling over every half hour or so. I think it's actually something to do with the flash plugin, but I'm not sure whether it's an Adobe issue or something to to with FireFox. I'm starting to lean more towards Adobe because I've been watching a lot of Captivate videos today and they seem to really cause an issue.

[Hyper]

By reference of the english word "This" you mean "A forum," you're absolutely right, it (a forum) has no life. The users who post on it do have life. We refer to them (the posters) as life-filled.

FireFox is slow (for whatever reason) and causes my computer to freeze/seize up periodically, which is why I don't use it.
I prefer Opera. I don't use "Favorites" tabs or any of that "Flashy" (bells and whistles) crap.