[BigAnt]

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t is said that god always preaches forgiveness but you mean then only until you die?

Exactly my point.

[nirvanarupali]

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All cats die.
Plato died.
Therefore, Plato was a cat.

Well this is a fallacy.
I know you know it, and I know you knew how to construct materially and formally valid syllogism.

This post has been edited by nirvanarupali: 23 April 2009 - 05:08 PM

[nirvanarupali]

When Rene Descates says: I think therefore, I am.
He was refuted as: what if you are the only one think of that then, you are only one exists? But that is not what it means.

[baavgai]

nirvanarupali, on 23 Apr, 2009 - 05:52 PM, said:

Well this is a fallacy.

Of course it is, that was the point.

[KYA]

BigAnt, on 23 Apr, 2009 - 04:35 PM, said:

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t is said that god always preaches forgiveness but you mean then only until you die?

Exactly my point.

It's in the Bible that you have up until the moment you die to make a decision. Standing before God is not a last minute chance to suddenly decide he exists after a lifetime of rebuking him.

[baavgai]

KYA, on 23 Apr, 2009 - 06:22 PM, said:

It's in the Bible that you have up until the moment you die to make a decision.

No pressure.

"Congratulating on exercising that freewill My omnipotent Self gave you, but you were wrong, so sorry. I'll send you off to Lucifer, ruler of Hell. He used to be part of my inner circle, but chose wrongly too. What? Yes, I am God. Yes, perfect. Why do you ask?"

The Gnostics found this kind of thing so absurd that they believed the God of the Bible was a petty stand in for the true Creator. They contended that a true supreme being wouldn't need for everyone to kiss His ass, or be vindictive enough to condemn them when they didn't.

[KYA]

Maybe he isn't, who's to know/say? Still I'd rather make the decision before hand.

[no2pencil]

KYA, on 23 Apr, 2009 - 06:22 PM, said:

Standing before God is not a last minute chance to suddenly decide he exists after a lifetime of rebuking him.

Only men can be gods?

[KYA]

no2pencil, on 23 Apr, 2009 - 06:58 PM, said:

KYA, on 23 Apr, 2009 - 06:22 PM, said:

Standing before God is not a last minute chance to suddenly decide he exists after a lifetime of rebuking him.

Only men can be gods?

Huh?

I think gender is irrelevant.

This post has been edited by KYA: 23 April 2009 - 07:12 PM

[no2pencil]

KYA, on 23 Apr, 2009 - 08:11 PM, said:

no2pencil, on 23 Apr, 2009 - 06:58 PM, said:

KYA, on 23 Apr, 2009 - 06:22 PM, said:

Standing before God is not a last minute chance to suddenly decide he exists after a lifetime of rebuking him.

Only men can be gods?

Huh?

Points made bold for your reading pleasure.

KYA, on 23 Apr, 2009 - 08:11 PM, said:

I think gender is irrelevant.

For your sake, I sure hope so. You have up until the moment you die to make a decision. Standing before God is not a last minute chance to suddenly check for gender.

[KYA]

no2pencil, on 23 Apr, 2009 - 07:14 PM, said:

KYA, on 23 Apr, 2009 - 08:11 PM, said:

no2pencil, on 23 Apr, 2009 - 06:58 PM, said:

KYA, on 23 Apr, 2009 - 06:22 PM, said:

Standing before God is not a last minute chance to suddenly decide he exists after a lifetime of rebuking him.

Only men can be gods?

Huh?

Points made bold for your reading pleasure.

KYA, on 23 Apr, 2009 - 08:11 PM, said:

I think gender is irrelevant.

For your sake, I sure hope so. You have up until the moment you die to make a decision. Standing before God is not a last minute chance to suddenly check for gender.

Good job using my words in a manner that mocks me.

[BigAnt]

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It's in the Bible that you have up until the moment you die to make a decision. Standing before God is not a last minute chance to suddenly decide he exists after a lifetime of rebuking him.

So then he is a hypocrite preaching forgiveness and then not following what he preaches.

[no2pencil]

The Way of the Gun (2000)

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Parker: We don't want your forgiveness. We won't make excuses. We're not gonna blame you, even if you are an accessory... But we will not except your natural order. We didn't come for absolution, we didn't ask to be redeemed. But isn't how it is, every goddamn time... Your prayers are always answered, in the order they're received...

Longbaugh: You know what I'm gonna tell God when I see him? I'm gonna tell him I was framed.

[ccubed]

For the record, God is genderless, however, he is the most commonly used pronoun for God. You can use she, it's not a big deal. It's along the same lines that cars, boats and other posessions are her.

Also, The difference in this case is that God has told us we had to make the choice, we have our own free will to make it however. We can choose to ask for forgiveness or not, in that way, he is allowing us to have what we want. I mean really, could you watch someone you love hurt themselves and then let them make the decision on their own and never say anything about it?

[nirvanarupali]

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Do you believe in faeries?
No.
Ha! Therefore you must believe in faeries, because to deny their existence is to affirm acceptance of their existence to deny.
Are you high?

Well, faeries is not "Supreme Being", and there's no possible way to become being.

It could be a "logical being" because it exists only in the mind not in the reality. This is considered as relative nothing.

However God is a "Supreme Being" the "pure Existence". As they call it the "Unmoved mover", the "Uncaused first Cause.

Well on the side note; not philosophy related:

Unless you experience some kind of mystical level, you will understand what it is.

Some person experience it.

http://www.ewtn.com/...rcy/stfaust.htm

http://www.divinemer....com/vision.htm